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  • Anti-UK?

    So I've just seen an advert on a certain connection website (posted by a UK based shipping company); "If you want to work in the UK we have these jobs:" hence listing all levels of shipping jobs, from captain to all levels of officer to motorman and OS, yet a lot of us UK guys still can't get a contract to sail. Government, commercialism or straight on anti-UK?

  • #2
    Pick up the phone and call them, ask them! Seriously!

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    • #3
      Tried it, speak to someone and they only give an email; 'send your cv over' and then it's like 'we'll get in touch if anything comes up'. Great to have a masters cert when you're trying to be a junior officer and you've got chiefs going for the same job I guess

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      • #4
        When looking for work around 3 years ago I was straight up told that a (Red Ensign) company 'only employ eastern europeans', just the way it goes sometimes. If we ran shipping companies for profit I dare say we would be tempted to make a similar decision...

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        • #5
          This is just a sign of the times. In my previous job (not in shipping I must point out) I had a guy phone up who'd been made redundant and had read about a "skills shortage" in my industry, and thus decided to switch careers. He spent the last of his redundancy money getting himself trained and obtaining his professional qualifications. It was obvious he was diligent, intelligent and self-disciplined (and keen). Despite constantly advertising for new personnel my company didn't employ him due to 'lack of experience'. To meet the 'skills shortage' we preferred to hire experienced staff from elsewhere in the EU, rather than take a chance on a Brit. It's shameful really when British companies let qualified, keen-to-work, Brits rot on the dole whilst importing folk from overseas to fill vacancies.

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          • #6
            I would be cautious about believing all that you read on LinkedIn.

            If you are referring to the post by Michael Derek ‘RECRUITING AGENT at “K” Line LNG Shipping (UK ) Limited (765 likes / 863 comments) it is a fake profile.

            His experience is listed as:
            K”LINE RECRUITMENT for 6 years “Generated new development deals for a real estate development company that focuses on multi-family residential projects, including real-estate market analysis.”

            CP Marine UK Ltd for 9 years “Brand development, web site traffic growth, web site UI and advertising revenue. Developed brand strategy and statistics systems.”

            BTW, CP Marine is a one-man recruitment agency in Hull run by ‘CP’.

            As to why someone would get a kick out of creating a fake profile and gathering connections I’ve no idea. I’m sure it would lead to eliciting some kind of payment for a job offer or visa appointment. Here is a link to an e-mail exchange they’ve had with a Cadet they ‘offered’ a job to - https://www.scamwarners.com/forum/vi...?f=34&p=269910

            Seeing his e-mail address is listed as klinelng_shippings@consultant.com should ring alarm bells at an early stage

            While you are at it, have a look at Capt. Ryan Chester – supposedly the Recruitment Manager at “K” Line LNG Shipping (UK) Ltd… his LinkedIn profile picture is of an American politician (can’t for the life of me remember his name).

            Philip Mitchell RECRUITING AGENT at "K" Line LNG Shipping (UK) Limited - also fake

            Capt Rick Daniel Senior Recruitment Consultant "K" Line LNG Shipping (UK) Limited - fake (looks like his profile picture is an American Sheriff?!)

            The fact I share 25 connections with this lot is a bit scary...!

            Here’s the link to a post I made on this subject a few months ago - http://www.officercadet.com/showthre...tment-Agencies

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            • #7
              Originally posted by newbie View Post
              I would be cautious about believing all that you read on LinkedIn.

              If you are referring to the post by Michael Derek ‘RECRUITING AGENT at “K” Line LNG Shipping (UK ) Limited (765 likes / 863 comments) it is a fake profile.

              His experience is listed as:
              K”LINE RECRUITMENT for 6 years “Generated new development deals for a real estate development company that focuses on multi-family residential projects, including real-estate market analysis.”

              CP Marine UK Ltd for 9 years “Brand development, web site traffic growth, web site UI and advertising revenue. Developed brand strategy and statistics systems.”

              BTW, CP Marine Marine is a one-man recruitment agency in Hull run by ‘CP’.

              As to why someone would get a kick out of creating a fake profile and gathering connections I’ve no idea. I’m sure it would lead to eliciting some kind of payment for a job offer or visa appointment. Here is a link to an e-mail exchange they’ve had with a Cadet they ‘offered’ a job to - https://www.scamwarners.com/forum/vi...?f=34&p=269910

              Seeing his e-mail address is listed as klinelng_shippings@consultant.com should ring alarm bells at an early stage

              While you are at it, have a look at Capt. Ryan Chester – supposedly the Recruitment Manager at “K” Line LNG Shipping (UK) Ltd… his LinkedIn profile picture is of an American politician (can’t for the life of me remember his name).

              Philip Mitchell RECRUITING AGENT at "K" Line LNG Shipping (UK) Limited - also fake

              Capt Rick Daniel Senior Recruitment Consultant "K" Line LNG Shipping (UK) Limited - fake (looks like his profile picture is an American Sheriff?!)

              The fact I share 25 connections with this lot is a bit scary...!

              Here’s the link to a post I made on this subject a few months ago - http://www.officercadet.com/showthre...tment-Agencies
              I fell for the Rick Daniels one initially until I read his profile properly on my laptop and then reported him to both LinkedIn and K line.

              It is very scary how many, fairly senior, managers and directors that I know are connected with these people and actually respond to the "like so I can review your profile" posts...
              I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by.....

              All posts here represent my own opinion and not that of my employer.

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              • #8
                The picture for Ryan Chester is John Kerry, US secretary of state.

                (Who knows, maybe he runs K Line recruitment on the side? )
                I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by.....

                All posts here represent my own opinion and not that of my employer.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by GuinnessMan View Post
                  The picture for Ryan Chester is John Kerry, US secretary of state.
                  That's the fella - good spot (it was beginning to bug me)

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by condeh View Post
                    When looking for work around 3 years ago I was straight up told that a (Red Ensign) company 'only employ eastern europeans', just the way it goes sometimes. If we ran shipping companies for profit I dare say we would be tempted to make a similar decision...
                    Some companies only hire eastern europeans as they will work on ferries and OSVs in UK waters without earning equal leave, 8 weeks on 4 weeks off for example, which people from the UK generally won't accept, as well as working for less money. You sometimes see jobs advertised for vessels in UK waters that say "for safety reasons Polish speakers only, this is the working language on deck", it should be illegal to advertise a job in the UK for a language other than English, unless it's for a job as a translator or something.

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                    • #11
                      Good to see people are starting to realize what the Eastern Europeans have done to the offshore industry.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by WesternStar View Post
                        Good to see people are starting to realize what the Eastern Europeans have done to the offshore industry.
                        What did they do exactly, other than the jobs none of us really wanted until the Offshore sector went wibble?

                        Also, do you not have anything else better to contribute?
                        I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by.....

                        All posts here represent my own opinion and not that of my employer.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by WesternStar View Post
                          Good to see people are starting to realize what the Eastern Europeans have done to the offshore industry.
                          I think you'll find it's Saudi Arabia in their war with USA shale oil that's to blame for the present state of the offshore industry.
                          io parlo morse

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by WesternStar View Post
                            Good to see people are starting to realize what the Eastern Europeans have done to the offshore industry.
                            Yeah, the cheek of them taking jobs that they were offered. Maybe offshore jobs should be reserved for special people?

                            I really am saddened by some of the utter garbage that I hear from some people
                            Go out, do stuff

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                            • #15
                              I think my contribution is an entirely reasonable one. I don't see why it has created such hysteria between you all.

                              Many people have had enough of seeing jobs that were formally filled by UK citizens outsourced to Eastern Europe. Aren't we having a referendum on the EU soon?

                              Maybe the offshore jobs should be reserved for special people - just like in Brazil, Australia, USA, Canada, Argentina and so on. I think there should be a preference for UK citizens in the UK offshore sector. I'm sure some of the newly qualified guys who can't find a job might agree.

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