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  • A "just out of curiosity" tax question

    Basically if you are in a situation in which you don't pay tax because you are out of the country for the required time per year etc, if you had a part time job whilst you were home how would this work with tax? Would it be classed as a second job and you instantly get the high tax rate or would you have a "normal" tax code based on just these earnings? Or another situation?

    I suppose one answer is "minefield - get an accountant" which probably would be the best plan but I'm just interested.

  • #2
    why on earth would you want a part time job?!?!?!

    However, going from when I have done "odd jobs" for sailing charities,...you declare the income BUT if you are tax free and have NOT used your allowance (10k currently) then so long as your income is <10k then it stays tax free, however if or when you break the tax free SED then it will get messy and expensive.

    Basically as you arent using your "allowance" you cna off set the esecond income against that.......But YES get an accountant or ask taxman in the SED department....not a normal taxman / tax office
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    • #3
      Nah I don't want another job... well I will want A JOB in a few months, but not a second. I just wondered how it works because I know of people that work part time at the Colleges etc. This is what happens when we're at anchor and I have nothing better to think about.

      I did wonder what happened with the tax free allowance though so that's another of my random questions answered.

      Thanks Chiefy!

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      • #4
        I have taxable income from savings interest, small business and some casual work I do. As long as it's less than my personal allowance I don't pay any tax.
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        • #5
          So, to clarify:

          If you are at sea for 183+ days your MN wage does not count toward your tax free allowance?

          So effectively you start from scratch with a potential second income which is shore based?


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          • #6
            Originally posted by RobinBjerke View Post
            So, to clarify:

            If you are at sea for 183+ days your MN wage does not count toward your tax free allowance?

            So effectively you start from scratch with a potential second income which is shore based?


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            The second part yes, the first is not so simple. There are other factors than simply having been at sea for more than 183 days in the tax year.
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            • #7
              But yes if you have an eligible period for SED you can use your personal allowance of ~10k as you like
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              • #8
                Obviously 183+ in non uk waters I assume.

                Cool beans though


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                • #9
                  Yes, plus a foreign crew change at least once a year and possibly some other conditions. One good thing though, is if you're a bit under the 183 days, you can use holidays abroad as qualifying time

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                  • #10
                    Really? Thats hilarious


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                    • #11
                      What if it's an all British crew and no foreign crew change but you are away for 183+ days?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Ma Goose View Post
                        What if it's an all British crew and no foreign crew change but you are away for 183+ days?
                        What's the crew nationality got to do with taxation and SED? (not sarcasm, genuine question)
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                        • #13
                          I think what Ma Goose meant was that if you have an all british crew you are more likely to do crew changes in the UK.

                          Some UK coastal companies actually do 1 foreign crew change per year to ensure that people get their qualifying sea time in as this means that they can attract seafarers on lower salaries than they would otherwise be able to.
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                          • #14
                            Yes, I know P&O maritime do this for the Cefas ship. I think IOM counts as a foreign port.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by chris View Post
                              I think IOM counts as a foreign port.
                              It is. As are the Channel Islands.

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