Chief Officer Exemptions

[noworries182]

Hi all,

I?ve been looking into doing my chief mates unlimited. I have C & D exemptions but I wasn't clear on what these where until today. I was on the phone to Warsash today and they informed me what it means but I was wondering if you guys could reconfirm this and also how long these exemptions last. Second opinions are always good. Thanks everyone.

[alistairuk]

The C & D refers to the educational requirements that need to be completed prior to Orals / Issuance of a CoC.

Parts A & B are required for the OOW licence, C & D for the Chief Mates level. If you completed Foundation Degree you will have completed A,B,C & D at the same time - although when I applied for my NoE I encountered the problem that the college hadn't sent the correct paperwork when I completed the foundation degree - something they were apparently correcting 2 years ago for everyone they had made a mistake with.

If you completed the HND and then returned to do the additional study beyond the minimum required for issuance of the HND (I can't remember what its actually called as I didn't do it) then you will have completed C & D at that point.

I don't believe it exempts you from the SQA's unless you were Foundation Degree, however I am sure Warsash will have advised you fully of what it means and what you have to complete in order to obtain your Chief Mates licence so i'm slightly confused why you're asking for a "second opinion" when you'd expect the education establishments to be able to tell you!

[noworries182]

Thank you very much for the information Alistair. I did the foundation degree so apparently all i have to do is short courses and oral prep, I was also informed that the exemptions last for 7 years. To me, a second opinion in always valuable regardless of where the information is from, I don't know who I'm speaking to on the other end of the phone and whilst I was doing my degree not all the information regarding required qualifications was correct. Thanks again for the clarification.

[alistairuk]

Thank you very much for the information Alistair. I did the foundation degree so apparently all i have to do is short courses and oral prep, I was also informed that the exemptions last for 7 years. To me, a second opinion in always valuable regardless of where the information is from, I don't know who I'm speaking to on the other end of the phone and whilst I was doing my degree not all the information regarding required qualifications was correct. Thanks again for the clarification.

Yes, if you were ex foundation degree then like me all you need to complete is;

+ MCA Signals - You're old one will have expired (2 year validity)
+ NAEST (M)
+ HELM (M) - You've missed the exemption date for that I'm afraid
+ Proficiency in Medical Care
& your Orals Examination

You're not actually "required" to do Orals Prep but yer, I'd recommend that

Be aware that at some point they expect to revoke the SQA exemptions although it's not likely to be for a year or so.

[Midge]

See newbies post

http://www.officercadet.com/showthread.php/9261-February-2014-SQA-statistics?highlight=Exemptions

[CharlieDelta]

If you completed the HND and then returned to do the additional study beyond the minimum required for issuance of the HND (I can't remember what its actually called as I didn't do it) then you will have completed C & D at that point.

With the new HNC/HND system, completing the HND counts as A,B,C,D. The HNC counts as A,B.

[marlinspike]

What about people who have completed the Professional Diploma in Scotland, is it the same situation as the foundation degree in England? Is it the same following 5 things that have to be completed to get the chief mates ticket?

1) MCA Signals - You're old one will have expired (2 year validity)
2) NAEST (M)
3) HELM (M) - You've missed the exemption date for that I'm afraid
4)Proficiency in Medical Care
5) Orals Examination

[alistairuk]

What about people who have completed the Professional Diploma in Scotland, is it the same situation as the foundation degree in England? Is it the same following 5 things that have to be completed to get the chief mates ticket?

1) MCA Signals - You're old one will have expired (2 year validity)
2) NAEST (M)
3) HELM (M) - You've missed the exemption date for that I'm afraid
4)Proficiency in Medical Care
5) Orals Examination

Your probably best approaching GCNS / the college you did your OOW course with to confirm if there are exemptions for the PD or if your required to sit the SQAs? Did you sit SQAs for OOW?

[marlinspike]

Your probably best approaching GCNS / the college you did your OOW course with to confirm if there are exemptions for the PD or if your required to sit the SQAs? Did you sit SQAs for OOW?

I think the Professional Diploma in Scotland is the same as the foundation degree in England, just a different name.

People that complete the Professional Diploma get a letter confirming exception for having to do the MCA written paper. So must be the same 5 things that are mentioned before that must be competed to get the mates ticket.

[marlinspike]

If you have done the Foundation Degree/Professional diploma, then do the 4 short courses & pass the Chief Mate orals to get the Chief Mate Unlimited ticket, what happens after getting the required sea time to get Master Unlimited? Obviously you'll need to do the required short courses and oral, but will there be anything else to complete?

[alistairuk]

If you have done the Foundation Degree/Professional diploma, then do the 4 short courses & pass the Chief Mate orals to get the Chief Mate Unlimited ticket, what happens after getting the required sea time to get Master Unlimited? Obviously you'll need to do the required short courses and oral, but will there be anything else to complete?

You shouldn't have any courses to complete unless your current ones have expired. But no, it's purely Orals at Masters level once you have the 18 months sea time.