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  • Permanent contract to agency work. Anyone switched?

    Hey folks,

    Long time lurker on this forum.

    I've always found the answers from other threads so never had to post.

    I'm contemplating leaving my current job to do ad-hoc agency work as I want to be more flexible with my leave.

    I have minimal commitments at home. Other than a mortgage which just about pays itself with AirBnb while I'm at sea.

    Agency might give me a chance to get experience beyond the boats I'm currently on (PSVs).

    So, has anyone made that switch? Am I crazy to be giving up a permanent position right now?


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    Your mortgage provider might not be happy with you changing as they likely lent to you based on your current income and status of employment, and when you signed up for it there was a clause that you agreed to saying "do you foresee any changes to your circumstances which may affect your ability to pay your mortgage?".

    I know a lot of full time agency workers but they're all home owners or live abroad and bought their houses with cash. Is it not worth selling your house and buying in a country where you can go without a mortgage? A lot of ferry motormen are agency workers that do 4 months in the UK then go back to Thailand where they live like kings with their cash.

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    • #3
      I’m doing similar - just quit a permanent job to go to the agencies. Seems to be a fair bit of work going - I’m lucky with my experience that I can do alright with Ferries and Workboat type companies so Trinity House etc. Hope it goes well, if not I’ll be back with my tail between my legs

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      • #4
        Originally posted by sailorj93 View Post
        I’m doing similar - just quit a permanent job to go to the agencies. Seems to be a fair bit of work going - I’m lucky with my experience that I can do alright with Ferries and Workboat type companies so Trinity House etc. Hope it goes well, if not I’ll be back with my tail between my legs
        Just kinda butting into this... sorry. But what agencies are ok to work with at the minute? I tried a few when i just qualified and it kind of left a bad taste. But im looking into this again now ive got a 2nds as they might be a bit more keen to talk to me and the flexability seems a real draw.

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        • #5
          Your mortgage provider might not be happy with you changing as they likely lent to you based on your current income and status of employment, and when you signed up for it there was a clause that you agreed to saying "do you foresee any changes to your circumstances which may affect your ability to pay your mortgage?".
          Once you have concluded the application and purchase of the property they are not interested in what you do with your life and career as long as you keep up your monthly payments, using airbnb on a residential non BTL mortgage is another issue entirely.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by thady View Post

            Once you have concluded the application and purchase of the property they are not interested in what you do with your life and career as long as you keep up your monthly payments, using airbnb on a residential non BTL mortgage is another issue entirely.
            They are very interested in what you do with your life regarding job security and wages, your contract with the mortgage provider through your conveyancer literally says you are legally obliged to alert them to changes in your situation regarding this, obviously it's up to you whether you do it or not.

            That aside, if you change job to something less desirable you'll find yourself stuck when your fixed terms end and finding yourself at the mercy of credit and earnings checks if you change lender.

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            • #7
              Check out IR35 and see how it will affect you first. Remember agency guys don't get great pensions ,sick leave or training and a PAYE employee. LTD company is best way but then look into IR35

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              • #8
                Originally posted by monkeywars View Post

                Just kinda butting into this... sorry. But what agencies are ok to work with at the minute? I tried a few when i just qualified and it kind of left a bad taste. But im looking into this again now ive got a 2nds as they might be a bit more keen to talk to me and the flexability seems a real draw.

                This was a long time ago!! The agencies I'd recommend for "proper" MN stuff, Clyde Marine Recruitment, Genesis, Seamariner.

                Faststream seem like a good bunch, same with Red, EPTM recruitment and a few others I forget are good too but tend to recruit for permanent posts rather than offer agency work.

                Seaworthy Consulting have lots of work for smaller vessels (generally <24m) and one off jobs. However, they seem to have pretty limited knowledge of maritime in general. They will be asking for tickets you don't need and courses that don't even exist in some cases... Classic in your case would be - "you need an AEC" regardless of the fact you have a 2nd Eng ticket...

                WRS have plenty of jobs too - but often really poor payers, don't seem targeted to the UK market.

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