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    Sorry I have gave everyone a bad first impression of me

    my name is Robert and I'm 16.

    I'm an aspiring engine cadet as I have a fondness if we'll really fixing thing etc

    i have a a very very very slight colour vision problem which has effected me from for filling roles such working on watch at night but it that I am safe to become an engineer and work with cables as my colour vision problem is at the minimum as I am able to pass the Ishihara test, Farnsworth d-15 and the city university test. I have made my self look like a complete idiot due to my careless spelling as currently I am using internet as I am waiting for my new laptop to arrive. Sorry for the amount of questions about really the same topic,appologize for this and I'll try to keep my questions under control and I'll post these question under one thread, but I am just worried as I said my colour vision problem is very slight and I am afraid that this will effect me becoming an engineering officer on cruise ships and they may not consider me. I thank very one for answering my questions fully and Thank you for sparing a few minutes to read this.


    I am going to apply next year to carnival and several other company's and attend city of Glasgow college
    Phase 5 SPD engine cadet at city of Glasgow college. Doing a a combined motor and steam ticket.

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    Hi Robert,

    If you can pass the Ishihara test then you should be fine, that is the only test that I have had to do throughout my career at sea, deck officers have to do a different test and your medical certificate may say "not fit for look out duties" on it, but that is very different to watchkeeping in the engine room and a slight colour vision problem shouldn't stop you from becoming an engine room watch keeper.

    If you can pass the Ishihara test then you shouldn't even need to mention any colour vision issues on your application.

    Whichever company you end up being sponsored by will usually decide which college they wish to send you to, although some may give you a choice.

    If you keep all of your questions to this thread then you will have all of the info you need right here.
    Go out, do stuff

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    • #3
      From what I've read it doesn't always seem like you get first pick of college mate. I'd be prepared to be sent anywhere if I were you

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      • #4
        Hi

        Originally posted by Brendan View Post
        From what I've read it doesn't always seem like you get first pick of college mate. I'd be prepared to be sent anywhere if I were you
        I would go to any college but I would prefer glasgow but I am willing to go anywhere
        Phase 5 SPD engine cadet at city of Glasgow college. Doing a a combined motor and steam ticket.

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        • #5
          Thank you clack what actually is an engine room watch keeper I thought I would need to go on bridge watch keeping at some point
          Phase 5 SPD engine cadet at city of Glasgow college. Doing a a combined motor and steam ticket.

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          • #6
            I think you need to do a bit more research on the career (although obviously we are happy to help you out with that). If you are an engineer there will generally be no requirement for you to go up to the bridge unless you are fixing something or up for a chat. Engineers deal with all the erm, engineering-y stuff. Engines, steering gear, thrusters, pumps, water plants, electronics (on ships without ETOs). Basically anything mechanical. They don't need to worry about the navigation of the ship or looking out the window, that's the job of us deckies. One of our many engineering cadets/officers will be able to elaborate on what they do on a daily basis. I just know they run about with spanners and make things work!

            On the college issue a lot of the companies will choose for you although some will let you state a preference but there is no guarantee you will get it. Some companies like to send you as far away as possible to make sure you can handle being away from home. Also I'm not sure if Carnival send cadets to Glasgow. I thought they preferred to use the colleges down south? Could be wrong on that maybe someone else knows.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by EH75 View Post
              I think you need to do a bit more research on the career (although obviously we are happy to help you out with that). If you are an engineer there will generally be no requirement for you to go up to the bridge unless you are fixing something or up for a chat. Engineers deal with all the erm, engineering-y stuff. Engines, steering gear, thrusters, pumps, water plants, electronics (on ships without ETOs). Basically anything mechanical. They don't need to worry about the navigation of the ship or looking out the window, that's the job of us deckies. One of our many engineering cadets/officers will be able to elaborate on what they do on a daily basis. I just know they run about with spanners and make things work!

              On the college issue a lot of the companies will choose for you although some will let you state a preference but there is no guarantee you will get it. Some companies like to send you as far away as possible to make sure you can handle being away from home. Also I'm not sure if Carnival send cadets to Glasgow. I thought they preferred to use the colleges down south? Could be wrong on that maybe someone else knows.
              Yeah a family friends son is a cadet for carnival and is currently studying at glasgow all of the advice was great though cheers
              Phase 5 SPD engine cadet at city of Glasgow college. Doing a a combined motor and steam ticket.

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              • #8
                Fair enough then.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by EH75 View Post
                  Fair enough then.
                  https://www.royalcareersatsea.com/pages/engine

                  here though EH75 royal carribean are looking for an engineer watchkeeper does this not mean they want there engineer on bridge
                  Phase 5 SPD engine cadet at city of Glasgow college. Doing a a combined motor and steam ticket.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by robertpollock View Post
                    https://www.royalcareersatsea.com/pages/engine

                    here though EH75 royal carribean are looking for an engineer watchkeeper does this not mean they want there engineer on bridge
                    Engineers on cruise ships and those without UMS also maintain a watch but their watch will be held in the engine room keeping a close eye *cough* on the machinery and dealing with any issues that crop up during their watch. Depending on how they do things, they'll also handle their routine maintenance during this time.

                    There is no reason for an Engineering Officer to maintain a watch on the bridge.
                    I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by.....

                    All posts here represent my own opinion and not that of my employer.

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                    • #11
                      Yeah the phrase "watch keeping" does not just mean on the bridge. Engineers keep watches too, except they watch the engine, whilst we watch what's happening out the window.

                      Of course a lot of ships now are UMS (unmanned machinery space) as GM mentioned. This basically means that the engine room is not manned at night and the engineers get to have a decent sleep (unless an alarm goes off to tell them something needs looking at in the engine room). So on UMS ships engineers generally work during the day and don't have watches in the traditional sense. The traditional watches being 12-4, 4-8, 8-12.

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                      • #12
                        The only exception I can think of is on the fast ferries where the engineer keeps watch on the bridge with the deckies!
                        Pilotage - It's just a controlled allision

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                        • #13
                          Really? Why's that?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Pilot Chris View Post
                            The only exception I can think of is on the fast ferries where the engineer keeps watch on the bridge with the deckies!
                            Bugger, forgot about that and I even know those vessel types really well! However, it's not normally watch officer up there but C/E isn't it?
                            I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by.....

                            All posts here represent my own opinion and not that of my employer.

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                            • #15
                              Thanks everyone

                              Originally posted by GuinnessMan View Post
                              Bugger, forgot about that and I even know those vessel types really well! However, it's not normally watch officer up there but C/E isn't it?
                              eh75 guinessman and pilot Chris thanks for the info. I took a large colour test at a clinic at a university and I'm not fit for watch in the bridge but I'm fine working with cables because I have a very slight deficiency so will I not be restricted to anything in the engine room.
                              Phase 5 SPD engine cadet at city of Glasgow college. Doing a a combined motor and steam ticket.

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