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    When ur are a cadet at college do u get much say on what ship you are working on?
    Will u always be onboard with other cadets from your class?
    Can u turn down Piracy areas?

  • #2
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    I suppose it's all subjective to the company that's sponsoring you.

    1. I doubt you would get much say, you will be probably allocated to the ship that needs you.

    2. I have heard that generally cadets are allocated together, but be prepared to be the only cadet on board.

    3. I don't think you can, though I have heard of war zone bonuses being given.

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    • #3
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      The MNTB has recommendations for dealing with cadets during the sea phase... but they are suggestions and not requirements.

      Good practice is to have more than one cadet on board a vessel that has an officer who has received extra training in how to support cadets and compliment their land based education.

      There are a lot of piracy areas in the world, you're bound to have to traverse one of those areas at some point in your career so why not do it whilst in training? The extra experience and information on requirements to reduce pirate risk would certainly be something to write about.

      As for which ship you'll be serving on... that's nothing but pot luck and HR requirements
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      • #4
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        I remember hearing that cadets could refuse to sail in war zones but not in piracy areas. When I was a cadet with the Borg they certainly used to put cadets form the same college together fro their first trip if they could. You will get allocated to any ship that has space, sometimes the skipper might request a cadet if he is feeling lazy and/or needs a slave.

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        • #5
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          War Zones are few and far between, whay you or I call a War Zone might well not be, the IMO and BIMCO decidethese things as there are extra payments made for being in such an area, and "mostly" entry is voluntary so you get a chance to say "no".

          Piracy Area's...is most of the planet to a greater or less extent, as any act against a ship is technically piracy, however I suspect you mean Gulf of Aden / Somalia area, and most ships are just transiting and assuming the company is following the rules and transit coridors then it is pot luck however attacks depend on many many things and thier range is increasing as the Navy's get a better grip.

          And it isnt just the Captains who might feel a bit lazy and request a Cadet
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          • #6
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            Originally posted by Chiefy
            War Zones are few and far between, whay you or I call a War Zone might well not be, the IMO and BIMCO decidethese things as there are extra payments made for being in such an area, and "mostly" entry is voluntary so you get a chance to say "no".

            Piracy Area's...is most of the planet to a greater or less extent, as any act against a ship is technically piracy, however I suspect you mean Gulf of Aden / Somalia area, and most ships are just transiting and assuming the company is following the rules and transit coridors then it is pot luck however attacks depend on many many things and thier range is increasing as the Navy's get a better grip.

            And it isnt just the Captains who might feel a bit lazy and request a Cadet
            thanks for the info everybody, wait I don't get when you said that their range of attacks is increasing as the Navy get a better grip, that just a typo

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            • #7
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              They go further out across the Indian Ocean as the navies crack down in the coastal areas.

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              • #8
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                S4 they are going both further east into the Indian Ocean and South down the coast and now north into the Red Sea, there are some serious people worrying about them trying to close Bable Man Dep (spelt badly) but the wee pinch point at the bottom of the Red Sea just before you make a left turn going south ....thats as good as chiefys navigation gets
                Trust me I'm a Chief.

                Views expressed by me are mine and mine alone.
                Yes I work for the big blue canoe company.
                No I do not report things from here to them as they are quite able to come and read this stuff for themselves.


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                • #9
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                  Does anyone know what Piracy is like around South Africa and Lagos x

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                  • #10
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                    ICC Live Piracy Map
                    http://www.icc-ccs.org/index.php?option ... Itemid=219

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                    • #11
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                      Thanks

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                      • #12
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                        Originally posted by Chiefy
                        S4 they are going both further east into the Indian Ocean and South down the coast and now north into the Red Sea, there are some serious people worrying about them trying to close Bable Man Dep (spelt badly) but the wee pinch point at the bottom of the Red Sea just before you make a left turn going south ....thats as good as chiefys navigation gets
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                        • #13
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                          Originally posted by Malim Sahib
                          Originally posted by Chiefy
                          S4 they are going both further east into the Indian Ocean and South down the coast and now north into the Red Sea, there are some serious people worrying about them trying to close Bable Man Dep (spelt badly) but the wee pinch point at the bottom of the Red Sea just before you make a left turn going south ....thats as good as chiefys navigation gets
                          'Bab al Mandeb', aka 'The Gates of Hell'.
                          Never guess you were an engineer!
                          'Gate of Tears' I think is the literal translation; trying to get a saily boat through it certainly made me cry(F6 headwinds and driven salt spray does that to you; I ended up wearing a pair of ski goggles).
                          '... English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don't
                          just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages
                          down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for
                          new vocabulary.' - James Davis Nicoll

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                          • #14
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                            Why on earth would you want to go through there, or indeed anywhere in the Red Sea/GOA in a yacht?

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                            • #15
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                              ****s and giggles?
                              I read an article somewhere that said some Russian tourism outfit was taking folks out there on a sort of pirate "hunt" and that they were ok to shoot one if they came too close.
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