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    I've got a place at college and a sponsor... got my ENG1 and all that stuff and i really want to be a deck officer

    but i suffer quite bad with asthma & I've not told the ENG1doc or my sponsor.

    help!

  • #2
    Re: Asthma

    you should have told the doctor this at your medical, during my ENG1 I had to sign I had disclosed anything of interest to the doctor...

    The doctor would probably have investigated this in some more depth before deciding if it affected his pass / pass with restrictions / fail decision.

    If I were you I would call the doctor up and tell him, better than having a bad attack at sea and having to pay to be helicoptered to hospital. You might not be covered by the insurance if you haven't disclosed your condition.
    Former TH cadet with experience of cruise ships, buoy tenders, research ships and oil tankers

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    • #3
      Re: Asthma

      best be honest with everyone... if i was you i'd come clean... i had infant asthma myself and told the doc who assured me it would be fine...

      when you say

      Originally posted by unknown2u
      suffer quite bad with asthma
      to what extent do you mean?
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      • #4
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        Disclose everything, every time you go for an ENG1, they keep records of it. At my last one, the doctor asked me if I had anything else to tell him and I said no, completely forgetting the fact that I had broken my leg about 8 years ago. He then said are you sure? And I said yeah I'm sure and then he asked me why I hadn't mentioned my leg. Because it has been previously recorded then I have to disclose it on every ENG1 otherwise I am commiting fraud apparently.

        Go back and see your Doctor and explain about your asthma, if it's that bad and someone on the boat sees you with an inhaler when you haven't told anyone then they might send you ashore for another medical. We lost a cadet last trip because he had a knee issue that he hadn't told about but it became very obvious when he was struggling to go up and down the stairs, he was sent ashore to the doctors, failed his ENG1 and had to go home after wasting months in college and a few weeks on the boat.

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        • #5
          Re: Asthma

          What if you go to another doctor? All you have to show them then is the certificate itself which doesn't say much.
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          • #6
            Re: Asthma

            Sounds like a bad idea. There is a reason for minimum health and fitness requirements. Asthma attack on the bridge alone on watch at night sounds problematic. I imagine there are not only insurance and legal implications for not disclosing a condition, but trust ones as well. If it were foreign shipmates doing this kind of thing (I don't really consider Irish people to be proper foreigners CD ) you can imagine the damage it would do to trust in general.
            Worst of all, if or when it catches up with you, if it doesn't cast you into a vortex of guilt, it might screw your career prospects up in other ways. Then again, if it's only asthma, it might not be such a big deal getting a ENG1...

            May sometimes be considered fit if well controlled, no severe exacerbations, never used oral steroids. Apply more stringent standards if distant water duties 2.
            p18 of http://www.pml-solas.org.uk/forms/msn1765.pdf

            That would get you a Category 2 Restricted ENG1
            Category 2 : Fit for sea service but with restrictions (eg near-coastal waters only)
            p5 of http://www.pml-solas.org.uk/forms/msn1765.pdf

            ...better than being branded a liar, and never being able to work in the sector again (or worse... financial and legal stuff...)
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            • #7
              Re: Asthma

              Originally posted by CharlieDelta
              What if you go to another doctor? All you have to show them then is the certificate itself which doesn't say much.
              For a start there aren't that many doctors that do the ENG1 medical. Luckily there are two in my area which is very rare but then they are in the same practice so it's easy to check up on my last ENG1 even if I get a different doctor next time.

              To be honest I don't think the risk is worth it and as Nemo said, asthma isn't a huge problem anymore. I had it quite severely when I was young but I grew out of it. I still feel wheezy occasionally but I have in the past asked my Doctor if I should have an inhaler just to keep on hand in case of an emergency and they have always said no because there is an inhaler in the medical locker onboard. I have always managed to get my ENG1 without restrictions.

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              • #8
                Re: Asthma

                i havent had a bad attack in over 2yrs but i use my inhaler once a month and i ent sure i could go wiv out it wn onship like

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                • #9
                  Re: Asthma

                  I have Asthma quite bad myself and I use my inhaler regularly and I mentioned this in my ENG1 medical thing and they had no problem- well it hasn't prevented me applying or having restrictions.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Asthma

                    You need to specify this at the ENG1 as it specifically asks about this on the forms.
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                    • #11
                      Re: Asthma

                      You Muppet!

                      Well, drag your arse off back to your Doctors and tell him about your Asthma as its best that your company knows about your condition so that if you have an attack on board ship then they can give you the appropriate help. Also, some countries are a little funny about medications and they may want a chat if you turn up with a clean medical (saying all ok) and then start breathing out of a little plastic thing. They can be suspicious like that.
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