I recently since coming back found the ship i was on (of a certin arab flag) was brakeing countless laws and international regulations that i didnt realise while onboard and other things which i had a good idea was wrong but wasnt certin. how do you go about getting this reported esspscially as its none uk registerd with no uk crew/officers and dosnt stop in British waters the closest it got was algecires but not quite gib. its sister ship was recently arrested by the US coastguard for similar offences but not as extreme
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI recently since coming back found the ship i was on (of a certin arab flag) was brakeing countless laws and international regulations that i didnt realise while onboard and other things which i had a good idea was wrong but wasnt certin. how do you go about getting this reported esspscially as its none uk registerd with no uk crew/officers and dosnt stop in British waters the closest it got was algecires but not quite gib. its sister ship was recently arrested by the US coastguard for similar offences but not as extremeI love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by.....
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Just to check we are talking about the same company.
I'm guessing 4 letter container shipping company owned by a group of Arab states and you were sent there by a 4 letter training agency in southern england??
Apart from as I said earlier there about telling the training company so that they might stop sending brits there I don't think there is much that can be done.
When I sailed with them the paperwork was there saying all the drills had been done, all waste had been dealt with correctly etc. While we all know that it was a load of rubbish and the log books were lies, it will be the word of the cadet against that of the rest of the crew.
Best course of action is to avoid the company.
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Originally posted by Unreg View PostJust to check we are talking about the same company.
I'm guessing 4 letter container shipping company owned by a group of Arab states and you were sent there by a 4 letter training agency in southern england??
Apart from as I said earlier there about telling the training company so that they might stop sending brits there I don't think there is much that can be done.
When I sailed with them the paperwork was there saying all the drills had been done, all waste had been dealt with correctly etc. While we all know that it was a load of rubbish and the log books were lies, it will be the word of the cadet against that of the rest of the crew.
Best course of action is to avoid the company.
Right, complaining at your training officer is pointless as they won't know who to speak to and most likely won't pass it on. However, there are some informal meet-ups where the shore-side folks all have a good old natter.
Send me a PM, lets have a look at what's been going on and we can see where to go from there because you can winge and whine about it on here, which leads no where or we can have a natter about it and perhaps sort something out.
100% confidentiality assured, even on threat of torture (unless I'm tied to a chair and they're playing Bieber songs, then I might crack).I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by.....
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Originally posted by Lewis View PostI thought cadets could only be sent on uk registered ships??Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn?t do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines, sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.?
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Originally posted by Lewis View PostI thought cadets could only be sent on uk registered ships?
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Originally posted by tlloyd1983 View PostThey are sent on ships whose companies operate out of the UK to comply with tonnage tax requirements of training British cadets...
The number of cadets a company is required to sponsor is based on the number of officers on its UK registered ships.
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Steve, no, common misconception.
Tonnage tax is a way of paying tax on ships which are “strategically and commercially managed in the UK”, instead of paying corporation tax. There is no requirement for those ships to be UK flagged.
Also the training requirement is 1 trainee per 15 officers on their tonnage tax ships. So if they have 10 ships registered, with 8 officer compliment per ship, they have to train 5 cadets.
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Originally posted by Lewis View PostI thought all would be on a UK registered ship. Just that they would be the only person from the uk on itAsk your classmates where the ships they went on were registered!
?Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn?t do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines, sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.?
? Mark TwainmyBlog | @alistairuk | flickr | youtube Views and opinions expressed are those of myself and not representative of any employer or other associated party.
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Originally posted by tlloyd1983 View PostTonnage tax is a way of paying tax on ships which are “strategically and commercially managed in the UK”, instead of paying corporation tax. There is no requirement for those ships to be UK flagged.
Also the training requirement is 1 trainee per 15 officers on their tonnage tax ships. So if they have 10 ships registered, with 8 officer compliment per ship, they have to train 5 cadets.Last edited by alistairuk; 22 February 2013, 05:07 PM.?Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn?t do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines, sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.?
? Mark TwainmyBlog | @alistairuk | flickr | youtube Views and opinions expressed are those of myself and not representative of any employer or other associated party.
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