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    Hi i just want to know after you pass your cadet course and become a officer can you go straight into a onshore job and still earn good money and have lots of promotions available? thanks

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    Yes you can, but it is rather rare. You will most likely start at the bottom as an Assistant of some kind and you will slowly be rotated through different departments.
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    • #3
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      I only ask because if you spend to much time out at sea you wont have much of a social life and you wont really get a chance to meet a partner, and who would want to be with someone away at sea for 4 months at a time?

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      • #4
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        I'm confused; do you actually want to go to sea or not?
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        • #5
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          Originally posted by seanyo_82
          if you spend to much time out at sea you wont have much of a social life and you wont really get a chance to meet a partner
          Ever been to the crew bar on a cruise ship? No? Try it before you slate it!

          Originally posted by seanyo_82
          and who would want to be with someone away at sea for 4 months at a time
          My boyfriend, and a lot of other people's partners too!! The pay off for being away for so long is balanced out by being home for a long time too, and the wages. Oh and when you find the right person, they'll understand and together you make the most of the time you have with each other.

          It sounds almost as if you want the perks of being a seafarer without the graft, to get a good shorebased job you will have to first put in a good few years of being at sea and gain a wide range of experience and understanding of the industry before you can get a well paid job on land.

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          • #6
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            Originally posted by size4riggerboots

            Ever been to the crew bar on a cruise ship? No? Try it before you slate it!

            My boyfriend, and a lot of other people's partners too!! The pay off for being away for so long is balanced out by being home for a long time too, and the wages. Oh and when you find the right person, they'll understand and together you make the most of the time you have with each other.

            It sounds almost as if you want the perks of being a seafarer without the graft, to get a good shorebased job you will have to first put in a good few years of being at sea and gain a wide range of experience and understanding of the industry before you can get a well paid job on land.
            Either that or start at the bottom in a shore based role. Working at sea and working in the industry ashore are two completely different things, each with their own steep learning curve!

            You could be the best Chief Engineer in the world, but you could be the worst Superintendent....
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            • #7
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              As for finding a "partner" (whatever one of those is) cant say it's ever been an issue finding them is dead easy it's the keeping....... there in lies the trick but e-bay helps no end

              Although wife 2.0 is lasting well at 4 years we have been married 8 times longer than my previous best effort

              For a good shoreside job you need to do the ship time, OR give it up quite quickly and go do Maritime Law or some such, most Suppers will tell you that senior ships staff get paid more than them... if only by the amount of tax we dont pay 25% is a lot to give to the government
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              • #8
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                Originally posted by Chiefy
                As for finding a "partner" (whatever one of those is) cant say it's ever been an issue finding them is dead easy it's the keepingt
                The police tend not to like it when your partner's turn up dead.....
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                • #9
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                  Originally posted by seanyo_82
                  who would want to be with someone away at sea for 4 months at a time?
                  Maybe the kind of partner who also wants a lot of time to concentrate on their own career. Maybe the kind of person who has learned to be happy alone first, so that their happiness would not depend too much on another person. Or even, someone who likes the idea of an open relationship for the time being? Haha.

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                  • #10
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                    I know people who very quickly after the cadetship went onto become Cargo Superintendants, P&I Club Claims Advisors and VTS Operators. I was pushed towards taking an ISM Supers job, but decided against it. Sitting out and getting the Class 1 Unlimited is well worth considering before deciding to go ashore, it opens more doors and gives you more confidence and experience.

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                    • #11
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                      Originally posted by GuinnessMan
                      You could be the best Chief Engineer in the world, but you could be the worst Superintendent....
                      ...or lecturer.

                      Not being sure about what you want to do in life just costs you time. The best favour you can do yourself is to take some time out from whereever you are, and have a quiet word with yourself about what you really want out of life, and then trust your intuition in making a decision and plan, and act on it. That's about all you can do.

                      If your chances of success in love and sex is bothering you enough to make you not want to go to sea, then factor that into your plans and adjust accordingly, but be certain about what you want, don't waste people's time.
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                      • #12
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                        What i want is a long lasting high paid career with plenty of opportunities to to keep getting promotions. The reason i asked my question is because im not a very good social person i have trouble communicating and fitting in because im very shy and quiet so being at sea for months on end i though would not do me as a person any good? Also id prefer to find a partner and start a family well before im 30; id prefer around 26-28 (im 20 right now and ill be 24 when i finish my cadetship) so again being at sea it might be hard to find someone willing to put up with you away for so long especcially if you have kids. Don't take this the wrong way im not complaining im literally asking for everyones support and help with this matter, maybe im wrong with everything i said hopefully someone can prove me wrong.

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                        • #13
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                          Originally posted by seanyo_82
                          The reason i asked my question is because im not a very good social person i have trouble communicating and fitting in because im very shy and quiet so being at sea for months on end i though would not do me as a person any good?
                          I was very quiet and lacking in confidence in my late teens, but I set myself the goal to become more confident. It's not a 'that's just who I am' thing, actually it's a bad habit that you can change over time. If you want to become more confident then try to look at things positively.. put yourself out in social situations more and more, even if you feel awkward. The more you try to socialise, the easier it will get. Leaving my small town and going to university gave me a lot of chances to socialise with more kinds of people and that really helped me improve fast.

                          Worrying about fitting in is something you could forget straight away. My friends like me because I'm different, we laugh about the times when I don't really fit in, I'm just being myself and they respect me for that. Besides that, worrying is rarely a useful feeling, you can achieve more if you control that emotion a bit better.

                          For your career, I think you should decide what it is you'd really enjoy and then pursue that. Maybe try reading some books about finding 'the right' career. What Should I Do With My Life? by Po Bronson was one I liked. Now I think if my heart wasn't in this choice, then I wouldn't enjoy it all that much and I wouldn't feel satisfied with my life.

                          If you do decide that you really want to do this, I think the engineering side might suit you more.

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                          • #14
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                            Originally posted by onara
                            I was very quiet and lacking in confidence in my late teens, but I set myself the goal to become more confident. It's not a 'that's just who I am' thing, actually it's a bad habit that you can change over time. If you want to become more confident then try to look at things positively.. put yourself out in social situations more and more, even if you feel awkward. The more you try to socialise, the easier it will get. Leaving my small town and going to university gave me a lot of chances to socialise with more kinds of people and that really helped me improve fast.

                            Worrying about fitting in is something you could forget straight away. My friends like me because I'm different, we laugh about the times when I don't really fit in, I'm just being myself and they respect me for that. Besides that, worrying is rarely a useful feeling, you can achieve more if you control that emotion a bit better.
                            Well said Onara. I was, would you believe it, the shy awkward one at school, and never thought I could "fit in". I took the decision to change when I went to uni, instead of waiting for people to find me and say hello, I went looking for people, it was scary, but the more I did it the easier it was. 6 months down the line my friends told me that they thought I was amazingly confident and out going in those first days, while they all felt scared and unsure. Oh and all my friends agree - I'm weird.

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                            • #15
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                              Seanyo - I understand where you are coming from because I have had similar thoughts. I am 26 now so a good bit older. I would/will be nearly 30 by the time I finish. When I sat down and had a real think I decided I was planning things too much, like I imagine you are, and decided it's probably best to jump in now and make a start.
                              What if you don't take this opportunity, stay on shore and then still not find your idea partner/have kids etc etc before you graduate? At the end of the day we all have to start a career sometime. With the economic and careers problems facing the UK at the moment I think a cadetship offers a really good chance to get a decent qualification and the start to a pretty secure career with good pay.
                              (the above is not mean to sound like I am having a pop by the way,just some things to think about).

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