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    Going Dutch
    June 29th, 2010

    Dutch ship owners want their ships to be manned by an all-Filipino crew, from officer down to ratings (non-officer) rank, an envoy said. The Netherlands Ambassador to the Philippines Robert Brinks disclosed during the reception he hosted at this residence on Monday night on the occasion of the 11th meeting of the Philippines-Netherlands Joint Committee on Maritime Affairs.

    ?Dutch employers want Filipino seafarers to occupy all positions in the ships because they are good and they can communicate well,? Brinks told journalists, adding that the Dutch have a lot of common with the Filipinos because both nationalities? make a living out of the sea.

    The Philippines is now in The Netherlands? largest source of seafarers with at around 10,000 Filipino seafarers being hired by Dutch-owned ships annually.

    Brinks? views were shared by Tjitso Westra of the Dutch ship owners Association.
    ?They can perform a lot of functions well and they are more reliable than other officers [of different nationalities]. If you treat them well, they won?t leave you for other principal even for a $100 or [$]200 more,? Westra pointed out.

    Brinks noted that the global economic crisis has not affected the hiring of Filipino seafarers for Dutch ships, especially at this time when the global economy is showing signs of recovery.
    The Dutch envoy revealed that their shipping industry learned from the mistake it made around 20 years ago when it fired people at the time of economic slowdown. As a result, the shipping industry lacked seafarers when the situation began to improve.
    ?I don?t think we will slow down on hiring Filipino seafarers because Asia?s [economy] is booming, there will always be a requirement for them,? Brinks explained.

    Netherlands came up with legislation that identified the best ways to recruit qualified foreign officers in Dutch-flagged ships in 1996 buoyed by the substantial increase of ships under the Dutch flag. The Philippines and The Netherlands then started the Joint Committee Meeting in 2001 that aided Manila in training its seafarers so that they can be hired by the Dutch principals.
    ?You have many seafarers but they are not enough jobs for them here. Giving them the right training and hiring them on board Dutch ships will provide them long time jobs for many years to come,? Westra said in closing.
    Source: http://www.shiptalk.com/?p=5027
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    Re: Dutch ships to be 100% manned by Philippinos

    is this guy a retard. What are the Dutch seafarers going to work on if all there ships are crewed by non nationals
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    • #3
      Re: Dutch ships to be 100% manned by Philippinos

      Originally posted by Beef1992
      is this guy a silly billy. What are the Dutch seafarers going to work on if all there ships are crewed by non nationals
      No he isn't. He works for the shipowners assoc. who are interested in one thing only; running their ships as cheaply as possible. Nautilus don't seem to have anything to say about this.
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        [dismay]They're not much ****ing cop for a union are they! They just seem to casually report the disintegration of the industry, demonstrating their complete impotence and irrelevance.[/dismay]

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        • #5
          Re: Dutch ships to be 100% manned by Philippinos

          And dont forget there is a difference between Dutch OWNERS and Dutch FLAGGED vessels. If theya re taking about owned vessesls only then so long as they crew up acccording to the regulations and limits imposed by the flag state there is nothing requiring them to use dutch labour. If on the dutch flag they they have to follow those rules, which may or may not preclude the exclusive use of Philipeno Officers and Crew.

          Just look at the UK flagEverygreen, fly the UK flag but get away with having not a single Brit on board, all because the MCA give out CeC's like sweeties, and everything is then leagal and good. Well legal at any rate.
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            Re: Dutch ships to be 100% manned by Philippinos

            Originally posted by nemo
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              Re: Dutch ships to be 100% manned by Philippinos

              You don't know what you're missing.
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                Re: Dutch ships to be 100% manned by Philippinos

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                • #9
                  Re: Dutch ships to be 100% manned by Philippinos

                  Originally posted by nemo
                  [dismay]They're not much tupping cop for a union are they! They just seem to casually report the disintegration of the industry, demonstrating their complete impotence and irrelevance.[/dismay]
                  Erm... that would also be our union (since Numast merged with the dutch one to become Nautilus International a few years ago).
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                    Re: Dutch ships to be 100% manned by Philippinos

                    Originally posted by alistairuk
                    Originally posted by nemo
                    [dismay]They're not much tupping cop for a union are they! They just seem to casually report the disintegration of the industry, demonstrating their complete impotence and irrelevance.[/dismay]
                    Erm... that would also be our union (since Numast merged with the dutch one to become Nautilus International a few years ago).
                    But that dosent detract from thier fairly unique view that the membership are a PITA and should be screwed at every chance....but then I use them for "ticket insurance" seeing as every time we see the company the union guy is int he same car!!!! Hmmm?! glove, hand, in?
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                      Re: Dutch ships to be 100% manned by Philippinos

                      It's not a healthy thing for there to only be one union.

                      I was briefly in the T&G once (I didn't realise I was paying money into the Labour party), they were utterly useless... every time I asked for help, I'd sussed it out by the time they'd got back to me a few weeks later... and they were as slow as ****... they'd phone up and start asking the most basic initial questions to "commence their support"...

                      I fancy setting up a new Union of MN Officers & Cadets... membership, a nominal 10p a month, and we just run it online (the modern way)... I have complete faith in our ability to do a better job than Nautilus!

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                      • #12
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                        I'm sure you're not nemo, but I don't imagine you're going to find many cadets who have the time and energy to set up a union, get members, run it on a day to day basis and fight for recognition from the shipping companies and government, wed have more pressing things to do, like STUDY!!

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                          Originally posted by size4riggerboots
                          I'm sure you're not nemo, but I don't imagine you're going to find many cadets who have the time and energy to set up a union, get members, run it on a day to day basis and fight for recognition from the shipping companies and government, wed have more pressing things to do, like STUDY!!
                          Students who study...an oxymoron shurely?

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                          • #14
                            Re: Dutch ships to be 100% manned by Philippinos

                            Originally posted by size4riggerboots
                            I'm sure you're not nemo, but I don't imagine you're going to find many cadets who have the time and energy to set up a union, get members, run it on a day to day basis and fight for recognition from the shipping companies and government, wed have more pressing things to do, like STUDY!!
                            I don't think I was being as clear as I could have been... I was thinking more of an NUS type "Nautical Students Association" (the NUS isn't a real union), which we already effectively have with this site.
                            I thought giving it a name and a facade of professionalism might look good for all of us - there's not going to be much in the way of "running" or "fighting" - just gassing
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