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  • Union warns on Panama cadet MLC exclusion

    https://www.nautilusint.org/News-and...spx?newsid=543

    Nautilus International has expressed concern about a move by Panama to exclude merchant navy cadets from the provisions of the Maritime Labour Convention 2006 (MLC).
    The union is challenging a circular issued to shipowners by the Panama Maritime Authority containing a list of personnel that the registry ? the world?s biggest ? does not consider to be seafarers, under the terms of the MLC.
    It includes cadets, superintendents, armed guards, specialist offshore technicians and ?any other person or category of persons as indicated by the Administration?.
    The MLC ? known as the seafarers? bill of rights ? defines seafarer as ?any person, including the master, who is employed or engaged or works in any capacity onboard a ship?.
    ?We don?t accept that cadets should be excluded from the MLC and we are appalled that Panama is seeking to argue that they are not considered seafarers,? said Nautilus general secretary Mark Dickinson.
    ?The convention was drawn up with the specific intention of ensuring that anyone working at sea is covered by the protection it provides ? and the definition of seafarer was agreed on the clear basis of including hotel staff, entertainers and riding gangs ? indeed, anyone working onboard for any significant period.
    ?It is very disappointing that the world?s biggest ship registry is already seeking to undermine the agreed aims and ambition of the MLC and we are actively challenging Panama?s interpretation,? Mr Dickinson added.
    ?We have requested the International Transport Workers? Federation to raise this matter formally with the International Labour Organisation.?

    27/08/2013

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  • #2
    That's absurd.

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    • #3
      Yep! Speaks volumes about how a lot of shipping companies view cadets though.....

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      • #4
        My understanding of the MLC is if a Panamanian ship went to a MLC Supporting country and had a PSC inspection and it wasn't complying it would be impounded? so surely it doesn't really matter if they are the only people who have this view?

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        • #5
          Can you imagine the number of shipping companies who will flock to the Panamanian register if they think that this will exempt them from all the hassles of MLC for certain people onboard?

          If they were to extend this to hotel staff and concessionaires on passenger ships then 90% of the World's passenger fleet would be registered with them within a month.
          Go out, do stuff

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          • #6
            Originally posted by bobofinga View Post
            My understanding of the MLC is if a Panamanian ship went to a MLC Supporting country and had a PSC inspection and it wasn't complying it would be impounded? so surely it doesn't really matter if they are the only people who have this view?
            Flag > PSC if you are in compliance (DOC) with your flag then PSC can do one......
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            • #7
              Port State can still detain a ship if the country has ratified MLC and the ship is not confirming ? ...or am I getting this mixed up.

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              • #8
                A little ( I think).....if you are not in compliance with YOUR flag states MLC (assuming your flag has ratified MLC) then all they can do is check your DOC is being kept up, ie you are complying with flags version.....this is the reason we have sent cadets home from Hong Kong flaged ships because they where 16, HKG states 17 is min age as such we have to comply with the HKG rules.....

                I hope that clears it up a bit?!
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                • #9
                  The ILO's website states pretty clearly on the FAQ section that cadets are seafares for the purposes of MLC. Could just be nautilus making a fuss for their own reasons.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Lewis View Post
                    The ILO's website states pretty clearly on the FAQ section that cadets are seafares for the purposes of MLC. Could just be nautilus making a fuss for their own reasons.
                    I think the whole thing is about Panama changing their understanding of the MLC so that cadets aren't 'seafarers'.

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                    • #11
                      First ive heard about it and we have a few Panamanian vessels (although they do like to do things differently to everyone else). Shall check though...

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