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  • Carnival Sunshine in Venice

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...shoreline.html

    I have no idea if its safe or not but its ship related!

  • #2
    Ok, so it's the Daily Fail, so should of course be taken with a large pinch of highly indignant salt. However, I'm intrigued by this quote:

    A statement from the cruise company said: ‘Carnival intends to prove that the few metres claimed by the witness are in fact 72 metres and that the brush is no more than a safe transit carried out in accordance with the rules of transit.'

    Distances are not specified in the ROR, aside from the point that they must be SAFE. And there is the argument as put forward by one of the commenters below the article:

    The Corinth Ship canal is 21.3 m wide and takes 16.5m wide ships. *That's* an indication of the precision with which ships are routinely maneuvered in a confined waterway.

    Not being familar with the waters of Venice I'm not able to say how confined the waters that ship was going through are, however, given that this appears to be an isolated incident, I would assume that ships of that size do not pass that close to the shore as a general rule and therefore, would conclude that the maneuver was either showing off/stupidity or a bit of dodgy steering.

    But that's what reading the Daily Fail will do to you.....



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    • #3
      The Mail infuriates me, so I've only had a quick look.

      The photo has been taken from a very convenient angle, and it's quite obvious that the water taxi is in no danger. The ship will have had a Venetian pilot on board.

      I suspect that anti-cruise ship locals are clutching at straws to support their case, no doubt aided by some Daily Mail embellishments.
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      • #4
        Surprised that it isn't all the fault of immigrants, dole scroungers, political correctness gone mad or the labour party!

        As above this is just more sensationist journalism heavy on "Oh MY God" and light on fact or context, from one of the worst excuses for a newspaper that is allowed to be published.
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        • #5
          I doubt it was as bad as said, surly their was a pilot on board and from experience when we travelled there one of the deck cadets mentioned how little clearance you had..... When we went though it was extra fun as we got police escorted out as the protests were going on about big ships in their lagoon, also got delayed by about 3 hours!

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          • #6
            Would be interesting to see if this would have made the news if the company had not been related to costa or if it had been a different type of vessel.

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            • #7
              Daily Mail is total nonsense... they have contradicting articles on the same page...

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              • #8
                Should read the comments. Always gives me a giggle....

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by GuinnessMan View Post
                  Should read the comments. Always gives me a giggle....

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                  "Exactly where was the Harbour Pilot at the time?"

                  My guess would be on board...

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by GuinnessMan View Post
                    Should read the comments. Always gives me a giggle....
                    I'll pass, my blood pressure's fine as it is!
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                    • #11
                      Ahhh......

                      The Good old Daily Mail

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                      • #12
                        Love that song

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