Carnival Triumph

[Ducki52]

Sounds like things are getting pretty nasty and a bit sticky inboard the Carnival Triumph.

Poor buggers, I can't imagine it's nice for crew or for passengers... Although I imagine the engineers still have air con, working beer fridges and flushing toilets in their cabins...

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/02/13/us-mexico-carnival-idUSBRE91B1J120130213

[size4riggerboots]

I sincerely doubt that Ducki!

[alistairuk]

But you can bet the deckies will have established hammocks on the mooring deck

[size4riggerboots]

Lmao!

[chris]

It does seem to be a problem with cruise ship designs that a fire in the forward engine room can cripple the aft engine room and vice versa, and knock out the main electrical supply and the electric motor propulsion.

Contrast that to a DP III class dive vessel that can continue to operate in DP mode with one of its two engine rooms on fire.

The forward and aft engine room generators typically supply forward and aft switchboards, so it must be have been a large fire to spread into the next compartment.

The Carnival Splendour fire required a CO2 release after the hi-fog nozzles were found to be blocked and non functioning. I wonder if the hi-fog has failed again???

[chris]

http://maritimematters.com/2013/02/carnival-triumph-engine-room-fire-quelled/

This report claims that the fire was automatically extinguished. So at most they should have just lost half the switchboard. Very odd.

[alistairuk]

A thought... Carnival Triumph is a relatively old ship (she entered service in 1999) - while she is diesel electric - does she actually have separated engine rooms? (She wouldn't of been required to due to her construction date).

Interesting though, Carnival Splendour (which admittedly is a newer design - launched in 2007) essentially had a similar incident a year or so ago - although I can't find the report from the Panama authorities online.

As with the other incident this week, we'll just have to wait for the Bahamas accident report...

[GuinnessMan]

Urine on the carpets?

Now I'm not the smartest chap in the world, but surely the best thing to do here is not piss on the carpet....

Oh, and you're being slowly dragged back to port but "we think we're going to die!" Really?

[HarmlessWeasel]

How does an engine fire make the toilets back up?

[GuinnessMan]

How does an engine fire make the toilets back up?

As you're an aspiring cadet, I'll go easy on you this time. The toilets on ship are not like the toilet in your house. They are actually quite similar to an airplane toilet in that most are vacuum toilets, which requires a pump or two to run, which requires electricity, which the Emergency Genny does not connect to as it's too busy off powering things like Steering Gear, Bridge Equipment, etc...

[HarmlessWeasel]

As you're an aspiring cadet, I'll go easy on you this time. The toilets on ship are not like the toilet in your house. They are actually quite similar to an airplane toilet in that most are vacuum toilets, which requires a pump or two to run, which requires electricity, which the Emergency Genny does not connect to as it's too busy off powering things like Steering Gear, Bridge Equipment, etc...

Turns out Guinnes baiting is fun :P

but thanks, I knew they wouldn't be standard home loos (taken a few number twos on yachts), I just thought backing up meant actively coming back up, not just people being too stupid to keep taking a dump in non-working toilets.

[GuinnessMan]

not just people being too stupid to keep taking a dump in non-working toilets.

You're dealing with Passengers here. Brains are left at the gangway upon arrival....

A brain is not required for the deck department though....

[HarmlessWeasel]

You're dealing with Passengers here. Brains are left at the gangway upon arrival....

A brain is not required for the deck department though....

Thank christ for that

hmm, might stick with cargo, might not be much more intelligent, but at least it doesn't **** everywhere and eat all the food

[Ducki52]

I love reading the daily mails comments section on this story, Carnival could recruit a whole new board and senior management team just by doing a lucky dip...

[chris]

regarding separate engine rooms and ship age, I was a cadet on the HAL Rotterdam which was built in 1997 at the same Italian yard and that had two engine rooms. 3 in the back and two in the front.

So you should be able to have an engine fire in one, the hi-fog put it out and the other engine room keep going unaffected or is that asking too much.