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    http://gcaptain.com/finish-ferry-gro...er-stuck?29708

    Amusing. Quite an absurd situation, will be interesting to read any reports that might come out of it.
    Last edited by CharlieDelta; 20 August 2011, 02:17 PM.
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  • #2
    Given that they are considering wether or not it was criminal (and i imagine it wiill be based on what precautions he took before leaving the bridge) if hes convicted there goes his job im not really sure its a story that deserves the laughter.

    How would you feel if you got kicked off the cadetship becasue you got stuck in your cabin and failed to appear for a drill?
    you can take it with a pinch of salt, but i prefer it with a nip of whisky

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    • #3
      More of an observation about the absurdity of the situation than anything malicious, I assure you. If I were to get stuck in my cabin for a valid reason I'm quite sure my cadetship wouldn't be on the line. Edited my post slightly to clarify.
      Last edited by CharlieDelta; 20 August 2011, 02:18 PM.
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      • #4
        If you got stuck in your cabin during a drill, I highly doubt a cadetship would be on the line.

        Now your own personal pride, well thats a different story....
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        • #5
          It was more the idea of something that wasnt directly your fault causing serious problems
          you can take it with a pinch of salt, but i prefer it with a nip of whisky

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          • #6
            Originally posted by ETwhat? View Post
            It was more the idea of something that wasnt directly your fault causing serious problems
            He was the Captain. Comes with the job and the pay...
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            • #7
              miss a drill, slap on the wrist - on the ship I was on.
              Former TH cadet with experience of cruise ships, buoy tenders, research ships and oil tankers

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              • #8
                Originally posted by GuinnessMan View Post
                He was the Captain. Comes with the job and the pay...
                it does, and if he wandered off the bridge without telling anyone when he was the on watch officer, then he probably wasnt doing his job right, however if he informed the crew man that he was going and that it was an unfortunate acident then its a very different story.
                It was more posting 'har har har' as a repsonse to the story that while amusing isnt particularly kind to the person involved.

                The idea of a cadet and drill was more trying to place a similar scenario where the effect (loss of job/fine ) wasnt related to the casue (going to the loo), I imagine that you could probably be stuck in there for a few days before people would even notice that your missing as a cadet.
                you can take it with a pinch of salt, but i prefer it with a nip of whisky

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by ETwhat? View Post
                  The idea of a cadet and drill was more trying to place a similar scenario where the effect (loss of job/fine ) wasnt related to the casue (going to the loo), I imagine that you could probably be stuck in there for a few days before people would even notice that your missing as a cadet.
                  I would take a very dim view of any crew that ignored the absence of ANYBODY from their duty stations and did not inform the bridge; granted you might only be stuck in your grot with dehli belly/trapped by a shonky doorlock(surprisingly common!), but it's a bit embarrassing for all concerned if you happen to be a MoB statistic.

                  That article is a travesty, and the AP/Reuters effort isn't much better; what is happening to journalism?
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                  just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages
                  down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by penfold View Post
                    That article is a travesty, and the AP/Reuters effort isn't much better; what is happening to journalism?
                    I think now that they cant just listen to the phone conversations, people are actually having to try to find facts from different sources. there may even be a bit of people are getting so used to writting everytime a new fact appears in the disjointed fragments of faceboook and twitter. Similarly people dont seem to be able to construct an arguement its more one liners, waiting for the response so that you can counter that.

                    as a cadet on my last ship i didnt work saturday or sunday as a rule, one ws study and the other was a day off so i would be relying on the stewardess noticing that i havent turned up for meals if i got stuck on a friday night. While if you didnt show up for a watch or a job wasnt done i would kinda expect someone to come looking, although less to see if your all right and more to give you a crack round the ear (and i dont mean that someone should be running around babysitting you either).
                    you can take it with a pinch of salt, but i prefer it with a nip of whisky

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                    • #11
                      As the Master of that particular vessel, it does not matter where he was or what he was doing when the ship ran aground. He is the Master, according to the ISM he is the Ultimate Authority, and therefore he is the one who is ultimately responsible for whatever happens with that vessel.

                      A point that should be made here, is that we can't really say whether anyone is at fault yet, because we don't know the full circumstances of the incident and we know very little about the actual vessel itself. We don't know how many crew are on-board, how many deck duty officers there are and where they were when it took place.

                      I did think it was a wee bit amusing that the Captain was stuck in the toilet when the ship ran aground (how embarrassing..), but we don't know if he was the one who was on bridge duty at the time, it could have been the 3rd Mate, and the article just wanted to have a bit of a sensational title. Lets all wait until we have a bit more information.
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                      • #12
                        I know I'm going off topic here but... WTF? Sat and Sunday off every week?!? You got a regular DAY OFF?! Who was that with and can I have their number please?! I hope you know exactly how bleedin lucky you were, most of us get study days on a fairly irregular basis, depending on what's going on, as for a day off, unless you're escorting a tour (which isn't exactly a day off, ever tried herding cats?) it's unheard of!

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                        • #13
                          I got weekly study days but apart from that the only time I had was between watches.
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                          • #14
                            As a gadget, I got occasional saturday afternoons and every sunday off. Very little studying done though, more a DVD/poker marathon in the lounge.
                            '... English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don't
                            just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages
                            down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for
                            new vocabulary.' - James Davis Nicoll

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                            • #15
                              I personally wouldnt say it was a case of being lucky, if you try to kill two days it can be hard work. But it comes from the difference in the courses theres never a case for deck or engine where there is no one on duty. When you have a department of one, then its rather different
                              both companies i spent time with followed the guidelines to give a regular study day, and as for the day off that was on the second ship was reflected the schedule of the ship, if you havent gone anywhere in 18 hours and there are no passangers on board, unless theres something required theres not a huge amount mainly as the time was kept free to allow bigger jobs to be fitted into it when needed.
                              you can take it with a pinch of salt, but i prefer it with a nip of whisky

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