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    Is it true if a chief engineer is off the coast of a country which has very strict penaltys such as the seat penalty
    and forgets to make a test in the engine room or signed for oil to be thrown overboard, could he be tried in that country and in the worse case, given the death penalty. Heard this from a maersk engine cadet
    Phase 5 SPD engine cadet at city of Glasgow college. Doing a a combined motor and steam ticket.

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    Originally posted by robertpollock View Post
    Is it true if a chief engineer is off the coast of a country which has very strict penaltys such as the seat penalty
    and forgets to make a test in the engine room or signed for oil to be thrown overboard, could he be tried in that country and in the worse case, given the death penalty. Heard this from a maersk engine cadet
    If the vessel berths in that country and he is arrested then yes.

    If in transit through the waters then its a little bit more difficult to get you but I guess it's a possibility if they are able to have you extradited to their country, since you are governed by the laws of the country who's water you are currently sailing through.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by robertpollock View Post
      Is it true if a chief engineer is off the coast of a country which has very strict penaltys such as the seat penalty
      and forgets to make a test in the engine room or signed for oil to be thrown overboard, could he be tried in that country and in the worse case, given the death penalty. Heard this from a maersk engine cadet
      If you are sailing within a nations waters, then you have to abide by the rules of that nation.

      Forgetting to make a test, is unlikely to get jailed for it but the ship may be detained by PSC (depending on where you are, the Yanks like to do that).

      If the Chief does dump oil overboard illegally and the ship is in a nation's waters, then that nation's local plod (well, marine plod) will want a word or two with him about it. Most of the time though they don't actually do you for dumping the oil overboard, they get you with forging your ORB. To be fair, this is mostly an Yank thing, but if you turn up with a falsified ORB, and they catch you at it, they will jail you for it, hit your company with massive fines, try to jail senior management and put your company on probation. Take Columbia Ship Management as a good example, they got a whopping $10 million fine a year or two for three ships rocking up with falsified ORB's.

      Death Penalty? For oil? Unlikely. Drugs? In certain parts of the world, oh yes....
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      • #4
        Originally posted by GuinnessMan View Post
        If you are sailing within a nations waters, then you have to abide by the rules of that nation.

        Forgetting to make a test, is unlikely to get jailed for it but the ship may be detained by PSC (depending on where you are, the Yanks like to do that).

        If the Chief does dump oil overboard illegally and the ship is in a nation's waters, then that nation's local plod (well, marine plod) will want a word or two with him about it. Most of the time though they don't actually do you for dumping the oil overboard, they get you with forging your ORB. To be fair, this is mostly an Yank thing, but if you turn up with a falsified ORB, and they catch you at it, they will jail you for it, hit your company with massive fines, try to jail senior management and put your company on probation. Take Columbia Ship Management as a good example, they got a whopping $10 million fine a year or two for three ships rocking up with falsified ORB's.

        Death Penalty? For oil? Unlikely. Drugs? In certain parts of the world, oh yes....





        would it not be the captains responibilty for drugs found onboard
        Phase 5 SPD engine cadet at city of Glasgow college. Doing a a combined motor and steam ticket.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by robertpollock View Post
          would it not be the captains responibilty for drugs found onboard
          Depends on where they were found. In Engine room, both will be nicked...

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          • #6
            Originally posted by GuinnessMan View Post
            Depends on where they were found. In Engine room, both will be nicked...

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            Thanks guinessman for information. I am applying soon to become an engine cadet. What jobs are there on ashore because I'm assuming that's what you do now
            Phase 5 SPD engine cadet at city of Glasgow college. Doing a a combined motor and steam ticket.

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