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  • PDV underway but no making way and rule 15

    Having a discussion with a friend today: If you are a PDV underway and not making way and there is a PDV crossing from you're starboard side, are we still the giveway vessel? Or is no action taken as we are not making way? Quite a sneaky question this. What do you guys think?

  • #2
    Yeah, You are still the give way vessel. It's the same argument as " Is a vessel drifting off a port allowed to show her NUC lights" and of course you can't In reality the vessel on your starboard side will likely adjust her course slightly to pass you, but if they were determined on heading straight for you..... You'd need to shift out of it's road.

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    • #3
      If the vessel was crossing and you were stationary then there would be no risk of collision, if it was heading for your starboard bridge wing then it's not really crossing is it?
      Go out, do stuff

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      • #4
        If it's heading for your starboard bridge wing from right ahead to 22.5 ? abaft the beam then.....

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Clanky View Post
          If the vessel was crossing and you were stationary then there would be no risk of collision, if it was heading for your starboard bridge wing then it's not really crossing is it?
          It's based on aspect of the vessel, so yer, it can be classed as "crossing" even if it's aiming right at you, even if your drifting you should still have your engines ready to be able to comply with the rules - unfortunately lots of people simply stick on NUC lights.

          As Marty says MOST ships would see your drifting and just keep out the way, but there's always some idiot.

          The same argument exists (and has unfortunately happened) for a vessel at anchor - if someone hits you - your still to blame - just less so than the guy that crashed into you.
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          • #6
            How about this situation: "FV with outlying gear <150m located over the stern of her vessel, seen on my port side". Normal advice would be to sound two short blasts and pass astern of her as we are the give-way vessel but if she has outlying gear in that direction would the right option be a bold alteration of course to starboard to pass ahead?

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            • #7
              Or slow down and allow it to pass ahead of you You can still pass astern of the fishing vessel, nothing in the colregs states you can't, but in the interest of good seamanship you should avoid it.

              You can do 3 with your vessel, you can go to port, go to starboard or adjust your speed.

              My orals tip would be to remember in every traffic situation you should always have at least 2 of these available to you, sometimes all 3

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