Training Record Book

[Hatchorder]

Right, just had a look, and the copy TRB I have from the MNTB is 2011.

Secondly - here you go - some pictures of the pages from my TRB from 1981 to 1985.

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And if the Weasel asks which pages covered trimming the sails and fitting canvas hatch covers I will personally hunt him down!

Ian

[GuinnessMan]

And if the Weasel asks which pages covered trimming the sails and fitting canvas hatch covers I will personally hunt him down!

Was there a section on how to get animals on to the boat two by two?

[HarmlessWeasel]

And if the Weasel asks which pages covered trimming the sails and fitting canvas hatch covers I will personally hunt him down!

Ian

Don't get your knickers in a twist, I wouldn't ask anything so stupid. I was wondering which pages covered proper technique for obtaining soundings with a lead... (I wasn't actually going to say anything like that til you put ideas in my head! You only have yourself to blame )

[thebrookster]

And if the Weasel asks which pages covered trimming the sails and fitting canvas hatch covers I will personally hunt him down!

Ian, I can't see the bit covering Backstaff use??

Cheers,

Phil

[GuinnessMan]

Ian, I can't see the bit covering Backstaff use??

Cheers,

Phil

Oh well, at least when Ian kills me I won't be lonely....

[Hatchorder]

You may joke you bloody lot - we had to learn how to sound using a lead - white lead and tallow - anyone know why you had it and what you used it for?

By the deep nine?

Feeling bottom?

Leather with a hole in it?

All came in handy when we ran aground in Santander and there were cadets all running around swinging the lead!

As for animals on the boat two by two - you are right - we only loaded two engineers!

[GuinnessMan]

As for animals on the boat two by two - you are right - we only loaded two engineers!

[Hatchorder]

... I was wondering which pages covered proper technique for obtaining soundings with a lead...

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Err.... Task number 56 - right after "Stream, set and hand patent log" - Don't tell me you don't know what one of them is either - bloody youth of today!

[thebrookster]

You may joke you bloody lot - we had to learn how to sound using a lead - white lead and tallow - anyone know why you had it and what you used it for?

To pick up a sample of the seabed, so you knew what was underneath you. Different areas had different sea beds, and this could help tell you where you were.

Also, if my memory serves me correctly what was on the bottom gave you an indication of how well an anchor would hold.

The other point of the lead was too show depth, (if used correctly, swinging the lead is a skill in itself), so "By the deep 9" would mean 9 fathoms depth, though I am not certain what the deep stood for.

[Hatchorder]

To pick up a sample of the seabed, so you knew what was underneath you. Different areas had different sea beds, and this could help tell you where you were.

Also, if my memory serves me correctly what was on the bottom gave you an indication of how well an anchor would hold.

The other point of the lead was too show depth, (if used correctly, swinging the lead is a skill in itself), so "By the deep 9" would mean 9 fathoms depth, though I am not certain what the deep stood for.

Your marking on the lead line was a piece of leather with a hole in it for 10 fathoms. Not every fathom was marked and so by the deep was a measurement that did not have a marking on the line. By the mark 5 was because 5 had a mark. and a quarter 5 was the marking for the 5 fathoms being in the water by 18 inches.

2, 5, 7, 10, 12, 15, 17, 20 were all marks.

[JonathanI]

Quick Question who did you get in contact with in order to get copies for Ambassador purposes

[Steve]

I am actually amazed at how little the format of the book has changed in the last thirty years.

I was wondering which pages covered proper technique for obtaining soundings with a lead...

Doesn't your ship carry a lead line? All mine have, and they have been used to conduct berth surveys on more than one occasion.

At least one also had/has a patent log, though I confess to not having used it. Bit of an ancient thing in a box, stowed next to the star globe and the optical rangefinder. ;-)

[EH75]

Thanks for putting that up, fascinating as always! And yeah, its not THAT much different really, still lots of boxes to sign!

[GuinnessMan]

Quick Question who did you get in contact with in order to get copies for Ambassador purposes

They won't give them to you for that, plus you'd have to pay for them. I was in a company and wanted a copy of each for professional reasons (won't go into it exactly), but it was a challenge to get them, we had to pay for them and they took ages to arrive. Best photocopy your old one and use that...

[Hatchorder]

I got a brand new printed copy of the TRB from Kirsch, with a "sample" watermark on every page, bound in a nice blue folder - the only time I did get something I asked for!

Ian