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    Now this'll be a bit Deckie, so apologies to Engineers (1st time I've ever said that!) could any current cadets give me a bit of a steer in regard to content of the Deck Cadet course? Other than the Nav,RoR and ship stability side of things? I'll admit to being rather ignorant of Maritime law and the like. All offers gratefully received.

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    Maritime law... ugh. We've only had a few lesson so far, it's boring, covers things like the basics of how the law system works, contracts, jurastiction over the seas and er, stuff we've not done yet. Take a pillow.

    You'll also do meteorology, cargo work and ship construction, nav aids (not the good kind of aids), management, signals, professional development. errrr, can't think of any more off the top of my head. Are you doing the HND/C or the FD? The FD covers all theory up to mates, but the HND/C only takes it up to OOW, so if you're doing that you might not do management, the stability won't be as complicated, and I'm not sure if the HNDs do law either...

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      I'll be doing the FD, but not all of it. Just have to do the modules I don't already have. Very long and dull story, but basically it should boil down to the maritime law and cargo type stuff. Though it would amuse me greatly to be told I need to do Navigation!

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        Where are you doing it? Are you a old (ish) hand wanting to get some goldy blobs on your shoulder then?

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          I'll be heading to Fleetwood, and no I'm Fresh out of the box so far as the Merchant Navy's concerned. I may have originally taken the wrong direction in my seafaring career shall we say.....

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            Originally posted by size4riggerboots
            Where are you doing it? Are you a old (ish) hand wanting to get some goldy blobs on your shoulder then?
            steady love... that'll be the ready brek for us silver sailors dribblin' down our chins as we operate the ship from our motorised shackleton high seats!

            (I think he's about the same age as you IIRC)
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              Ah splendid, when shall we see you there? I hate to tell you that you'll probably have to do the whole course, if you know it already you'll breeze through it and be able to help your classmates. I was in a similar sort of position in the first year, having spent 7 months on a tall ship, I knew how to do a course to steer and and eta.. hadn't done great circles though, so I concentrated on that, they all thought I was reeeally clever! Now, they've all kinda caught up with me and I really ouught to be studying more, but this site's so much more interesting!! Oh we've not started celestial nav yet, but that's another thing on the course...

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                I'll be there in September, I'm getting positive noises from a lecturer up there regarding accreditation which is good, help's that the Grey Funnel line have finally sorted out their academic side of things. Celestial nav, ah what fun. I had a great time doing my astro ticket. Though I'm sure I'm about to get told I didn't learn to do it properly

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                  Excellent, I'll still be there, this term is painfully long...... We shall take you all out on the first night, get you horribly drunk and introduce you to the delights of Rafters. (Possibly the worst 'club' in the world, ever. You'll love it, everyone does.)

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                    Ha ha, sounds like a plan. Though you'll have to really work to prove its the worst club in the world! Ever been to Alexandria?

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                      Originally posted by size4riggerboots
                      Excellent, I'll still be there, this term is painfully long...... We shall take you all out on the first night, get you horribly drunk and introduce you to the delights of Rafters. (Possibly the worst 'club' in the world, ever. You'll love it, everyone does.)
                      I'll be back on leave by then.... might ahve to come along for a jolly

                      My mate is starting to teach at Fleetwood soon... that ought to be fun
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                        looks like the beginning of the first forum run ashore here, shotgun being the one in a dress.

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                          Originally posted by pashton86
                          Celestial nav, ah what fun. I had a great time doing my astro ticket. Though I'm sure I'm about to get told I didn't learn to do it properly
                          Did they teach you how to do it without recourse to Navpac? I understood that in the recent past, if not now, the RN taught celestial to OOWs without reference to the Nautical Almanac. Or at least it was Navpac for plotting.

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                            What you say is very true Steve, however due to everyone getting piled on to small ship's these days for OOW training the voyages aren't long enough for the sites. So I jumped on one of the Point's run by Foreland shipping to do mine and had the pleasure of a proper Merchant Officer teaching me how to do it properly. Also had the added bonus of opening my eyes to the colour of the grass on the other side.

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                              Originally posted by pashton86
                              I'll be there in September, I'm getting positive noises from a lecturer up there regarding accreditation which is good, help's that the Grey Funnel line have finally sorted out their academic side of things. Celestial nav, ah what fun. I had a great time doing my astro ticket. Though I'm sure I'm about to get told I didn't learn to do it properly

                              Question is, did you do all the calculations 'hand-o-matic', or were you taught to do it via NAVPAC?
                              We often carry RN SLT in order for them to gain deep sea time for their Astro Nav ticket, indeed we had 3 onboard only last trip. From what they told us ,all they'd had was an hour or so of basic theory at BRNC, whereupon they were shown NAVPAC and told to go forth and work out the rest for themselves (complete with book).
                              After doing a few weeks onboard, the Old Man signed their chits up and off they went again. From what I understand this is a requirement before they can sit for their OOW ticket, and I would presume they'd cover the subject in some depth when up for FNO etc?

                              Edit: Just seen that Steve beat me to it!

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