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    Hi all
    I've recently been successful in my application and interview with Clyde Marine Training and have recieved an offer to study at South Tyneside Marine College to study for a foundation degree in maritime studies (deck officer).
    The interviewer actually told me at the end of the interview that Disney Magic were looking for cadets right now and he'd be putting my name forward for that so advised me to put them as my first choice, although I did stipulate in the interview that I genuinely don't have a preference what sort of vessel I'll be sailing on, ideally I want to gain as much experience on as many different types of vessel as possible, and in terms on comfort/discomfort, I'm prepared for anything (I can't stress enough that I didn't and don't desperately want to be on a cruise liner, this was suggested to me by the Clyde rep).

    My question is, what are some good choices for my other two choices of sponsoring company?
    My only real concerns are (obviously) pay, and job security.

    The list I have to choice form includes:

    Africa Express Line Ltd

    British Marine Plc

    Clyde Marine Training Trust

    Cosco Maritime (UK) Ltd.

    CSL Europe Ltd.

    Farstad Shipping Ltd.

    Four Coal Shipping Ltd

    Four Handy Shipping Ltd.

    FS Shipping

    Graig Ship Management Ltd.

    GulfMark UK Ltd.

    Imperial Shipping Ltd.

    Isles of Scilly Steamship Co. Ltd

    K Line Bulk Shipping (UK) Ltd

    Knutsen OAS (UK) Ltd

    Latsco (London) Ltd.

    Lomar Shipping Ltd

    Magical Cruise Company Ltd (Disney Cruise Line)

    Marineco UK Ltd.

    Maritime Educational Foundation

    Norbulk Shipping (UK) Ltd.

    Nordic American Offshore (UK) Ltd

    Northern Marine Management Ltd / Caledonian MacBrayne Ferries

    Odfjell (UK) Ltd.

    P&O Ferries (Western / Northern Ireland Sector) Ltd.

    Red Funnel Group

    Royal Caribbean International (UK) Ltd

    Sentinel Marine Pte Ltd

    Serco Northlink Ferries

    Solstad Offshore UK Ltd.

    Subsea 7

    Supplystill Ltd

    Union Maritime Ltd

    UP Offshore Services Ltd

    Vroon Offshore Services Ltd

    Wilhelmsen Ship Management

    Zodiac Maritime Agencies Ltd

    Thanks so much for any help
    Ben
    ?...the sea's only gifts are harsh blows and, occasionally, the chance to feel strong. Now, I don't know much about the sea, but I do know that that's the way it is here. And I also know how important it is in life not necessarily to be strong but to feel strong, to measure yourself at least once, to find yourself at least once in the most ancient of human conditions, facing blind, deaf stone alone, with nothing to help you but your own hands and your own head...?


    - Primo Levi

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    Hi Ben,

    Are you for the September or January intake?

    I would go for Subsea7 and Odfjell as they are involved in the oil and gas industry so my guess would be that they would pay better wages and be more likely to take you on after your cadetship.

    Matt

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    • #3
      Originally posted by mattjones1 View Post
      Hi Ben,

      Are you for the September or January intake?

      I would go for Subsea7 and Odfjell as they are involved in the oil and gas industry so my guess would be that they would pay better wages and be more likely to take you on after your cadetship.

      Matt
      Hi mate
      Thanks for the advice
      I'm on the September intake, I start on the 15th
      ?...the sea's only gifts are harsh blows and, occasionally, the chance to feel strong. Now, I don't know much about the sea, but I do know that that's the way it is here. And I also know how important it is in life not necessarily to be strong but to feel strong, to measure yourself at least once, to find yourself at least once in the most ancient of human conditions, facing blind, deaf stone alone, with nothing to help you but your own hands and your own head...?


      - Primo Levi

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      • #4
        Blimey! That's A LOT more companies than I remember looking through when I was at application stage for cadetships and whatnot (Went direct to companies, then agencies).

        From what I can gather- from friends that went down the Clyde Marine route- NorBulk/Zodiac Shipping are a mixed bunch when it comes to 'quality of training' considering most officers/crew will be Eastern-European (Latvian, even Russian!) as well as from the far-east. Of which language barriers were rather prevalent. But hey-ho, that was the opinion of a few people.

        A lot of the companies, by the looks of it, are Norwegian/Nordic/Scandinavian- which puts you in relative good standing considering the Noggies have a lot going for them (from what I can see).

        I understand your interest to pursue training on a huge variety of vessels- something which I would love to do, but didn't put much consideration to. Irregardless, Disney Cruises I would keep as a choice to select- I'm sure our resident member AlistairUK (If spelt correctly) would be able to tell more about them (I believe he currently/used to work for them ).

        Vroon- operate mostly under "Vos"- safety vessels/safety-boat for offshore installations and work- in the North Sea. Fleet itself is extremely varied! With container, dry, livestock, tanker, car, safety and offshore vessels! http://www.vroon.nl/Fleet So, they seem like a open option too.

        Subsea 7 and Solstad (ASA) Shipping also seem like reasonable options- Subsea 7 have a lot going in terms of DP and technologically 'enhanced' vessels- same for Solstad (A lot of vessels under "Normand ..." names) which again- new, sleek and interesting designs. Into the 'modern age' of shipping as it were.

        Thing to watch with offshore/oil & gas related companies- an awful lot of 'Deep sea' and 'single position' contracts/work- so not necessarily getting a good jaunt around the world/different regions and seeing the world as well (not important, but something to consider). That, and the current 'slump' in the market- which in 3 years may pick up and reignite, just a case of wait and see.

        That's just my views and opinion on the whole selection of choice- you've really got a good selection to pick from (Unlike when I went to see SSTG- where I only had 4 options!). I'm sure other members will be able to give some guidance as well

        http://www.subsea7.com/en/index.html
        https://solstad.no/
        "We have encountered an enemy square! The most deadly of all the quadrilaterals!" ~ EfffingController
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        • #5
          I'm with Knutsen OAS and have been told they are not taking any more cadets on so that's one off the list!

          In reality though the choices are meaningless. Not one person in my class got any of their choices. One guy asked for ferries and one guy for off shore. The ferry guy got off shore and the other ferries!

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          • #6
            Wouldn't you be best choosing a tanker company? You'd get all your tanker certificates for free then.
            io parlo morse

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            • #7
              Originally posted by endure View Post
              Wouldn't you be best choosing a tanker company? You'd get all your tanker certificates for free then.
              Are they expensive to get if you don't?
              Tankers are what I was gravitating to anyway in all honesty.
              ?...the sea's only gifts are harsh blows and, occasionally, the chance to feel strong. Now, I don't know much about the sea, but I do know that that's the way it is here. And I also know how important it is in life not necessarily to be strong but to feel strong, to measure yourself at least once, to find yourself at least once in the most ancient of human conditions, facing blind, deaf stone alone, with nothing to help you but your own hands and your own head...?


              - Primo Levi

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              • #8
                Originally posted by BenCam93 View Post
                Are they expensive to get if you don't?
                Tankers are what I was gravitating to anyway in all honesty.
                You will find its not expense that is the problem but getting the time on a tanker to be able to get the endorsement. It's a catch 22 without the endorsement you can't get the job, if you are on one as a cadet you get the seatime think it's three months, each type is also seperate, Oil is one chemical is another for example, they also do a specialist course too.
                If you don't do tankers as a cadet you need to find a ship that will take you on without the endorsement, which would be extremely difficult as I understand it, especially so now when there are hardly any jobs fir junior officers anyway, and the ones that there are seem to ask for experience. No doubt a tanker person will come along and explain it better than I.

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