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    Hi everyone, my 17 year old son was part of this years August intake for Eng FD, he has found the first 8 weeks academically very tough (Naval Arch & Statics mainly) although he has admitted that he has not opened books in the evening. My question is, if he continues to struggle - can he move to HNC and if so is there a stage in the FD course where this is not possible. I hope it does not come to this and I think he has started studying a bit more, so fingers crossed.

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    I know of one guy I sailed with who moved form FD to HNC after his first sea phase. Not sure about the in's and out's of it all though, but it is possible.

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    • #3
      Depends on the college's policy. I knew a few people that moved up from the HNC but none who went the other way. That was for the deck side at Glasgow so I don't know exactly what the engine policy is but would imagine it would be similar. What college is he at? Perhaps some people who've been to the same college will be able to offer some advice.

      Either way the sooner a decision is made the better because obviously the longer he waits the more difficult it will be to move down (if it is possible in the first place). He needs to speak to his course tutor or someone else responsible at the college and yeah if you don't study you are going to have problems so hopefully as you say this gives him a bit of a push to study more.

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      • #4
        sounds like a judicious application of fathers size 10's might also help ;-)

        It may be possible but will depend so much on college and company and reason for change that it's a "maybe" in all honesty
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        • #5
          He is at Glasgow Nautical College - COGC

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          • #6
            At South Tyneside College FD cadets were given two attempts at an exam, the initial sitting and one, and only one re-sit. If they then failed the re-sit they were then kicked off the FD program and put into the HNC/HND classes instead. We had a few join our group that way.

            As others have said, the judicious application of boot-to-arse may yield results, but if not try talking to his company training officer or course tutor, they should be able to advise you further.

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            • #7
              Even if he can he's only putting it off. He'll have to do it at some point to become a second engineer. When he does most companies wont pay so he'll end up out of pocket. Best to do it while somebody else is footing the bill. (edit sorry didn't notice you were an engineer you probably didn't need this explanation)

              He doesn't seem that fused why isn't he on here asking? Take that with not opening his books could be worth having a think if he wants a cadetship at all.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by PeterH View Post
                Hi everyone, my 17 year old son was part of this years August intake for Eng FD, he has found the first 8 weeks academically very tough (Naval Arch & Statics mainly) although he has admitted that he has not opened books in the evening. My question is, if he continues to struggle - can he move to HNC and if so is there a stage in the FD course where this is not possible. I hope it does not come to this and I think he has started studying a bit more, so fingers crossed.
                Not being harsh, but: -

                A) Kick him up the arse and tell him to get his head in his books,
                B) Don't let him drop down because he finds it a bit hard, what's he going to do on ship if he finds it a bit hard there?
                C) As much as we love having the parents on here (hides from father) and I can understand your worries, but surely he should be pointed at this site to ask his questions?
                D) Kick him up the arse again for good measure....

                If you require assistance on the arse kicking, my rates are fairly reasonable....
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by PeterH View Post
                  although he has admitted that he has not opened books in the evening.
                  You won't pass FD course without opening the books in the evening.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Polaris View Post
                    You won't pass FD course without opening the books in the evening.
                    You won't pass f*ck all unless you're prepared to put the effort in....
                    I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by.....

                    All posts here represent my own opinion and not that of my employer.

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