Eng Cadet drop-out rate?

[GuinnessMan]

I think the first sea phase makes or breaks most cadets (though our deck class lost one on our first day, not very encouraging...), there seemed to be an awful lot of mostly younger guys on the course whose hearts weren't really in it, they couldn't really think of what else they would do and it had seemd like a good idea at the time. Started with twentyish, ended with 13. One left right before orals right enough.

Aye, we had a lad leave on the first day....

To be fair, this is a good comment. The first sea trip does make or break it for most, however I do still think that there are a number of folks who join for the wrong reasons. We had a few lads within the intake who were there because their parents forced/sent them there and as a result had some of the worst attitudes going. We also had a few straight from school who thought the whole thing was just a paid college course and never took it very seriously. As a result, not many of those two groups were there at the end....

Personally, if I was going to do cadet recruitment, I'd avoid school leavers, I'd be going after folks who were in their early 20's as they tend to be a wee bit more mature (not always though). I'd also run an assessment day of sorts, group tasks, leadership stuff, that sort of jazz....

[chris]

just like to add that the drop out rate for the shields fd ETO course was 0% for the class of 2010-2013. Hope 2011 and 2012 intakes are keeping up the good work.

[Pilot Chris]

Laura you are spot on, I think the reason we only lost 50% in our year (Deck and Engine) was that a lot of us were over 19 when we started and thus had done a cr*ppy job in between education and cadetship and it focused the mind on the end game!

[laura]

I think the first sea phase makes or breaks most cadets (though our deck class lost one on our first day, not very encouraging...), there seemed to be an awful lot of mostly younger guys on the course whose hearts weren't really in it, they couldn't really think of what else they would do and it had seemd like a good idea at the time. Started with twentyish, ended with 13. One left right before orals right enough.

[GuinnessMan]

The last official figure that I remember seeing was that only 1/3rd will be remaining at the end, however from what I remember we started with about 130-150 odd and had about 50 or 60 at the end. To put in perspective, when we had our first CMT meeting, we took over the exam room at GCNS, not enough desks so a load of folks were standing. At the end, we were able to get into one of the smaller rooms in the Engineering block and everyone had a seat....

[Pilot Chris]

Agree with Bobofinga and from what I remember the engine side is roughly the same, it may be different nowadays in a struggling economic climate where people have a few less work choices and hence a bigger motivation to continue.

[bobofinga]

I can't talk too much for engineering , but for Deck i would say its approximately 50% from the number who start to the number who gain their CoC.

[PeterH]

What is the drop-out rate for new Cadets, does it vary much from phase 1 to 5 and Eng v Deck Cadets?