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  • Books are expensive. What's the solution?

    Hopefuly all will have heard of the Marine Society < www.marine-society.org >. Based in London, we've been supporting those who go to sea for longer than any other organisation. Most know we're also booksellers to the maritime sector, stocking an extensive range of titles at www.msbookshop.org

    We're increasingly concerned that those just setting out on their careers are struggling to afford the essential textbooks their colleges say they need to buy.

    So we're thinking of setting up a scheme to put vendor in touch with buyers, thus making it easier to get hold of used books at a fraction of the cost. A sort of eBay for seafarers.

    Is this a good idea? Are we right to believe such a service is needed? Would it be helpful?

    We have an idea of how it might work. Perhaps you have a better idea? Please share it.

    As ever, we'd be interested in your views and experiences. Please either use this forum or feel free to contact me directly in confidence on this or any other matter of concern (education@ms-sc.org).

    Thanks.
    Brian Thomas
    Director, The Marine Society

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  • #2
    That sounds like a good idea, the trouble I have is getting the books on ship what with flight restrictions etc. what I personally would find useful is an rebook version of the notes...most people have laptops etc these days so would be perfect

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    • #3
      Another suggestion would be that companies purchase a number of the necessary text books. These are then passed on to the cadets via the cadet training officer in return for a deposit.

      On completion of each phase if the books are no longer required by the cadet they are returned to the CTO who can in turn pass them onto other cadets. Saves having to purchase quite so many books.
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      • #4
        In the Philippines, all the Seamanship International Books are available in the maritime book stores at 1/4 of the price. Just goes to show the profit margin.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by The H View Post
          Another suggestion would be that companies purchase a number of the necessary text books. These are then passed on to the cadets via the cadet training officer in return for a deposit.

          On completion of each phase if the books are no longer required by the cadet they are returned to the CTO who can in turn pass them onto other cadets. Saves having to purchase quite so many books.
          Another suggestion would be to use the library.

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          • #6
            Would be nice if more nautical books were avalible for kindle as well

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            • #7
              Originally posted by pignutpilot View Post
              Another suggestion would be to use the library.
              What do you do when your on a sea phase and you can't use the library? I doubt council libraries stock copies of STCW etc.

              I think e-books are the way forward, as we all know an iPad/kindle takes up much less space and weight than the books.
              "Crazy like wild wolves threatened by fire, send them all to the bottom of the sea."

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Ducki52 View Post
                What do you do when your on a sea phase and you can't use the library? I doubt council libraries stock copies of STCW etc.

                I think e-books are the way forward, as we all know an iPad/kindle takes up much less space and weight than the books.
                There are "ways" of getting PDF copies of most of the books you will need as a cadet in PDF format.

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                • #9
                  At Fleetwood we've been told we'll get copies of some text books on disc so we can easily take them to sea. These are books that the College produce themselves though so I would guess no copyright issues.

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                  • #10
                    Any book you own, you can legally make a digital copy of. However distributing your own digital copies or copying library books is illegal and iffy (probably illegal) respectively. You should see the flow chart that we have on our photocopiers at uni to help us decipher whether we can photocopy the music or not...

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by pignutpilot View Post
                      Another suggestion would be to use the library.
                      Unfortunately a library does not always contain enough copies of each book for the number of cadets that require them, hence the need for them to currently purchase the books for themselves..
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                      • #12
                        As someone already said, a quick google search will get you a PDF copy of pretty much all of them.

                        As for what to do when at sea - your ship should have all the IMO / regulation based ones onboard + loads of other random crap as required by your company or flag.
                        “Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn’t do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines, sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.”

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                        • #13
                          anyone have or know where i can get an electronic copy of norries?
                          Can't be bothered shifting the real thing about any more

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Lewis View Post
                            anyone have or know where i can get an electronic copy of norries?
                            Can't be bothered shifting the real thing about any more
                            You really shouldn't need to take Norries away to sea, that one will be on the bridge for sure!

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                            • #15
                              Not necessarily! My last ship didn't have a copy of Norries on board, which I did think was a bit strange but there you go.

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