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    Mobile Phone Apps

    Was just wondering if anyone had any recommendadtions for mobile phone apps that they have found useful through their cadetship for things lik ROR, Celestial Nav etc. Back on ship in a few days time and thought it might be a good idea to download some. I know you need to know how to do everything manually and I have no intention of using things like celestial nav calculators as a substitute for manual calculations, although they might be good to check answers etc. I have an iphone but I think a lot of the apps are available on various different phones.

    So far I have the Imray Rules & Signals app which seems ok and the Starpilot app (which I haven't used yet because I've not been on ship since I downloaded it).
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    Just a word of warning: The apps are fine, but bare in mind that the information they contain is sometimes completely different to the official rules / wordings / meanings... so always double check with the official rules / MCA version
    ?Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn?t do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines, sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.?

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    • #3
      Yeah I know. Never rely on technology! I do love a gadget though.

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      • #4
        The 2nd Nav Officer on my previous ship used an app on his tablet which had all the latest maps on , which when coupled with the gps signal plotted your course.
        I remember him telling me the new charts were delayed , and the current ones we had were crap so it just made his plotting a tad easier. Any deckies could clear this up . It was ?15 for that area which was south america .
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Beef1992 View Post
          The 2nd Nav Officer on my previous ship used an app on his tablet which had all the latest maps on , which when coupled with the gps signal plotted your course.
          I remember him telling me the new charts were delayed , and the current ones we had were crap so it just made his plotting a tad easier. Any deckies could clear this up . It was ?15 for that area which was south america .
          And people wonder why they crash into islands...
          ?Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn?t do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines, sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.?

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          • #6
            Maybe Navionics? I have it on my cellphone as a backup for when i'm out on the tenders. Not sure i'd like to navigate directly from it.

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            • #7
              Yes cause of course windows which is the platform most ECDIS runs on is totally reliable and never features a blue screen of death, thats just a horrible lie that apple made up
              you can take it with a pinch of salt, but i prefer it with a nip of whisky

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              • #8
                Originally posted by ETwhat? View Post
                Yes cause of course windows which is the platform most ECDIS runs on is totally reliable and never features a blue screen of death, thats just a horrible lie that apple made up
                OK.....

                a) a lot of ECDIS systems actually run in Linux (IIRC, SAM gear runs on QTime)

                b) whichever OS is running the system it will most likely be an embedded system and as most BSOD's are actually caused by Windows not liking some piece of hardware or separately installed software, then they are unlikely on embedded system installed on specifically designed hardware unless the hardware starts to fail and in this case any OS will crash)

                c) I have had Win 7 installed on this laptop for around 3 years and even though it is pretty horrible to use, I have never had a BSOD.
                Go out, do stuff

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Clanky View Post
                  OK.....

                  a) a lot of ECDIS systems actually run in Linux (IIRC, SAM gear runs on QTime)
                  SAM NACOS runs off Linux Redhat, and is very stable. Konsburg runs off Windows, and is awful.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by AncientMariner View Post
                    SAM NACOS runs off Linux Redhat, and is very stable. Konsburg runs off Windows, and is awful.
                    I think it may depend on the version as i'm pretty sure the version we have on board isn't Red Hat.. it does occasionally crash but only part of the system, nothing a reboot doesn't fix, but yer it does run on Linux.

                    My original point was directed at the "it just made his plotting a tad easier" - cause we all know it's so hard to put a lat / long GPS position on a paper chart :-)
                    ?Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn?t do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines, sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.?

                    ? Mark Twain
                    myBlog | @alistairuk | flickr | youtube Views and opinions expressed are those of myself and not representative of any employer or other associated party.

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                    • #11
                      Clanky your point B, is also true for most tablets/smart phones which means they are hard to crash as all the communication is bulit in and there are no possible alterations. again the problem comes when someone writes an app, that has a glitch and the thing hangs up.
                      obviously things like android develop faster due to the different comercial pressure and also its more allowwable to have faults so testing etc isnt that hard.

                      the point was more about what people trust/ think is right than the technical idea behind it.

                      on a side note windows 7 is the best os microsoft have made since xp
                      you can take it with a pinch of salt, but i prefer it with a nip of whisky

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by alistairuk View Post
                        And people wonder why they crash into islands...
                        I totally agree with you. I read the comment by Beef1992 with incredulity. Beef1992 can you tell us if this was a UK qualified CoC please?

                        *shudders*
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                        • #13
                          No he wasn't a UK COC , rather he was polish his bosses were UK COC i dont think they knew about his little app , regardless of what he used it for it was a rather good little app. especially for us engineers who never have a clue were the heck we are .
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Beef1992 View Post
                            No he wasn't a UK COC , rather he was polish his bosses were UK COC i dont think they knew about his little app , regardless of what he used it for it was a rather good little app. especially for us engineers who never have a clue were the heck we are .
                            As an app for a casual observer I have no issues, but to use it for anything else would be bordering on criminal in my mind.

                            Anyway, what bothers me more is why engineers need to know where they are? We drive it - you fix it ......... Your view of life at sea never changes so why worry about it?

                            *Grabs coat quickly and hails a cab*
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                            • #15
                              We just like to keep tabs on you lot to make sure you aren't lost again.

                              Personally if I need to know where we are I nip along to the bridge and ask one of the bus drivers to point it out to me on the map.
                              Go out, do stuff

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