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    anybody wanna help me wit d issue of promotion and ranking onboard, it confuses me wen it get 2 those aspect

  • #2
    Normal Merchant tends to be as follows, with the Captain and Chief Engineer of equal rank (Captain overall responsible), Chief Officer/2nd Engineer equal rank etc etc

    Captain
    Chief Officer
    2nd Officer
    3rd Officer
    Bosun
    Able Seaman
    Ordinary Seaman
    Cadet

    Chief Engineer
    2nd Engineer
    3rd Engineer
    4th Engineer (If carried)
    Motorman
    Oiler/Greaser


    On the cruise ships it really varies but on the deck side it can be something like this

    Captain
    Staff Captain
    Chief Officer
    1st Officer
    Sr 2nd Officer
    Jr 2nd Officer
    3rd Officer
    4th Officer
    Cadet
    Bosun
    Assistant Bosun
    Quartermasters
    Able Seaman
    Ordinary Seaman

    And various combinations, but hopefully this will help you understand. In the UK system a cadet is an 'Officer Cadet' as such, and progresses directly from cadet to 3rd Officer. In some countries cadet leads to becoming an Ordinary Seaman and building up through the ranks,

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    • #3
      Also, some of the more special ships have special ranks.

      For instance, on Oil and Chemical tankers they sometimes carry a Pumpman who is in charge of all the cargo equipment (with the exception of the turbines or FRAMO engines) and on LNG/LPG ships they tend to carry Gas Engineers who do something similar.

      Depending on the nationality you're working with, they may also have a "Wiper" on board, which to some is like a trainee Engine Rating.
      I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by.....

      All posts here represent my own opinion and not that of my employer.

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      • #4
        Within my company it's:

        Captain
        Deputy Captain
        Safety Officer/Chief Officer (depends on brand)
        First Officer (Navigator)
        Second Officer
        Third Officer
        Fourth Officer (For those joining from other companies)
        Cadet
        CPO Coxswains and CPO Bosun
        Leading Seamen
        Seaman Grade 1
        Seaman Grade 2
        Seaman Trainee

        Engine is roughly:

        Chief Technical Officer
        Staff Chief Engineer/Staff ETO
        Ships Services Engineer
        First Engineer/ETO
        Second Engineer/ETO
        Ventilation Officer
        Third Engineer/ETO
        Hotel Services Engineer
        Motorman
        Fitter
        Wiper
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        • #5
          Originally posted by GuinnessMan View Post
          For instance, on Oil and Chemical tankers they sometimes carry a Pumpman who is in charge of all the cargo equipment (with the exception of the turbines or FRAMO engines)...
          Is your Pumpman a member of the deck or engine department?

          Anyone met a Donkeyman?

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          • #6
            Yes, we have a donkeyman onboard, he is the technician for the incinerator. Quite funny, everytime he rings the engine control room, the EOW makes an donkey sound when answering the phone. Apparently its tradition on this ship :/
            "My Job"

            It's not my place to run the boat
            the fog horn I can't blow.

            It's not my place to say just where
            the boat's allowed to go

            It's not my right to dock the boat
            or even clang the bell

            But let the damn thing
            start to sink AND SEE WHO CATCHES HELL!

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            • #7
              Thanks alot 4 ur response, i really appreciate u all.
              Looking forward to the time i will get onboard.

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              • #8
                As for promotion with the ranks, this is really very dependant on the company and the conditions/salary they offer (very diverse). At the bottom of the ladder are companies with generally poor conditions or undesirable companies who promote almost immediately on obtaining the minimum qualifications, upto companies who require the next qualification for the position they are in (i.e Chief Mates ticket for 2nd Officer etc).
                Good luck with your cadetship.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Steve View Post
                  Is your Pumpman a member of the deck or engine department?

                  Anyone met a Donkeyman?
                  Deck usually, but it can differ from place to place. It's not really all that important to be honest. Gas Engineers normally fall under Engineering though.


                  Originally posted by AncientMariner View Post
                  As for promotion with the ranks, this is really very dependant on the company and the conditions/salary they offer (very diverse). At the bottom of the ladder are companies with generally poor conditions or undesirable companies who promote almost immediately on obtaining the minimum qualifications, upto companies who require the next qualification for the position they are in (i.e Chief Mates ticket for 2nd Officer etc).
                  Good luck with your cadetship.
                  I'm always vary wary of companies that promote to fast. I've seen what can go wrong when that happens....
                  I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by.....

                  All posts here represent my own opinion and not that of my employer.

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