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  • btiratsoo
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    I am on a subsea construction vessel in the Gulf of Mexico right now, think Deepwater Horizon.

    Smoking areas: in the maritime crew coffee room, engine workshop, ROV hangar, electricians workshop and outside - but not on the workdeck, as long as we aren't in the 500m zone or undertaking bunker transfers from a supply vessel, that includes l.o, f.o and sludge discharge.

    Accommodation wise all cabins are non smoking but there is a smoking room available. We have three day rooms and one of them is the designated smoking room. It is in a separate area to the other two day rooms and in an area of the accommodation that is fairly empty most of the time. Gotta love the Norwegians hey.

    Regarding a bond, we have one as we are offshore a lot of the time and smokes are very cheap around 15 dollars for 200.

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  • Steve
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    Those are all before my time. Maybe the terminology has actually moved *away* from the RN in that respect.

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  • Malim Sahib
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    I'm sure 'Sir Geraint' had one, although whether that was a hangover from her pre-RFA days when she was owned/operated by the mighty BI is open to question.
    I also think the bars on the mighty 'Olna and Olwen' and possibly 'Tidespring' were the same, or at least that's what the brain cells which survived the Gin and Rum trauma are telling me.
    As I'm sure you're well aware, there are plenty of RN wannabes/rejects in the RFA who will go out of their way to RN-ise everything, so that's probably why they were referred to as such at the time.

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  • Steve
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    Originally posted by Malim Sahib
    Steve,
    It was referred to as so on a few of the grey funnels I was on, in tandem with other RN style institutions e.g. Mess Committee etc.
    During what period and on what ships was this? My experience from the 2000s excludes any references to "wardroom" by RFA officers. Occasionally visiting or embarked RN types exhibit confusion as to the correct term for the officers boozing facilities.

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  • Malim Sahib
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    Steve,
    It was referred to as so on a few of the grey funnels I was on, in tandem with other RN style institutions e.g. Mess Committee etc.

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  • Steve
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    Originally posted by Malim Sahib
    So do the RFA (quelle surprise), however it's an RN-ism that's crept into a few companies who think they're a cut above the rest and believe they're on the same level as Grey Funnel line in the annals of seagoing glory and snootiness.
    In the 'normal' MN and beyond the space is known as 'Officers Mess/Smokeroom', but generally referred to as 'Officers Bar' (how common!).
    You are mistaken, RFAs do not have "wardrooms", they have officially an "Officers Lounge" and unofficially an "Officers Bar". Anyone referring to "the wardroom" onboard is met with a blank look.

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  • dawg
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    I'm reliably told that they do have tiny hands... excellent for handling smalls...

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  • size4riggerboots
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    Well I didn't really want the filipinos going through my knickers anyway!!! It wasn't like I created much laundry for myself as most of time time I was in uniform. They provide plenty of laundrettes around the ship for personal laundry, but the main laundry only does uniform, bedding, linen, towels etc, plenty to keep them going!!!!

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  • Randomist
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    Originally posted by size4riggerboots
    On the cruise ships it is, all I had to do was my personal laundry. Dunno about cargo etc these days, but I'd doubt it.
    They made you do your personal laundry size4?

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  • size4riggerboots
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    On the cruise ships it is, all I had to do was my personal laundry. Dunno about cargo etc these days, but I'd doubt it.

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  • Malim Sahib
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    Originally posted by kayak
    Cabin service?!? I thought this was work, not a hotel break! Is it a common thing deep sea then?
    It certainly was and indeed still is to a degree (depends who you work for), it was also pretty common on certain coastal ships way back when.
    Remember that being an Officer actually meant something once upon a time, ergo you often had some real trappings of luxury on even the most humble cargo ship - one of those things which made life onboard a bit more bearable, especially when on a long trip.

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  • kayak
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    Cabin service?!? I thought this was work, not a hotel break! Is it a common thing deep sea then?

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  • Malim Sahib
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    With most companies/ships I've been with we've simply had an 'Officers Smokeroom/Mess/Bar' to drink and lounge around in, and an 'Officers Saloon' in which to dine. Many of the former could be particularly large and at times impressively furnished/equipped spaces, especially on those ships built between the 1950s and early 1980s (whereupon accommodation started getting smaller and more cheap/tacky).
    A lot of the older ships also had separate Officers only spaces e.g. Officers Games Room, Officers TV Room/Cinema, Officers Library, Officers Gym and on some ships a separate Officers Galley (food for ratings was prepared elsewhere).
    Was a bit of a shock when I bimbled aboard my first North Sea ship to find Officers and Ratings dined and socialised together, had to do your own laundry and of course there was no cabin service (i.e. you had to clean your own cabin and had to make/fetch your own tea/toast/beer)!

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  • size4riggerboots
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    QM2 has a wardroom, the mess is the dining room. No smoking in the wardroom though, but down the alleyway was a crew bar for all crew where you could smoke. I smoked in the passie smoking bar one evening, felt soo naughty! But I was accompanied by a more senior officer so got away with it, if I'd minced up there on my own I'd have been in trouble!

    THV Patricia also has a wardroom, but they eat in there and the mess is the bar/lounge. There's also a smoke room, where I spent most evenings

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  • Malim Sahib
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    Originally posted by kayak
    When I sailed on Stavros S Niarchos with the tall ships youth trust they had a 'Wardroom'
    So do the RFA (quelle surprise), however it's an RN-ism that's crept into a few companies who think they're a cut above the rest and believe they're on the same level as Grey Funnel line in the annals of seagoing glory and snootiness.
    In the 'normal' MN and beyond the space is known as 'Officers Mess/Smokeroom', but generally referred to as 'Officers Bar' (how common!).

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