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What is the average pay on superyachts like for all ranks?
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Better than on any other ship, but it does alter depending on size with obviously 150m things paying much better than 50m ones, and the smaller ones are less likely to give you as good a set of terms and conditions. http://www.crewsalary.com/ gives a vague insightyou can take it with a pinch of salt, but i prefer it with a nip of whisky -
Okay i have to ask this because this seems insane, on the salary data reports on that website you linked it has salary in euros is this monthly or yearly? For example some of them go upto 20000 euros if thats monthly that is [email protected]%king insane amount of money you will be rich in like a year!Comment
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Yeah that would be monthly but if you consider that theres one mark around that point and its for a captains position which isnt something you will walk into regardless of your big ship tickets.
Your looking more at going into the thing and getting 80k but if its on something 50m your not going to be getting any time off as you need to get up to the really big boys to get a rotation. There is a stupid amount of money in the big yacht sector and good people will get paid well for it. I've certainly not ruled out going back into the industry for a few years but it will depend on so much more than just the money. If you can get into it (and they tend to prefer people with passanger experience) and live with the terms and conditions that they place you under then it is worth while however doing it too soon before you have higher unlimited tickets can screw your job prospects over and it still seems that moving back from yachts to ships can be difficult.you can take it with a pinch of salt, but i prefer it with a nip of whiskyComment
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When you say your looking at going into 80k is that as a 2nd officer? How do you get onto the big yachts do you need to work on smaller ones first or can you go straight onto the big ones? When you say they tend to take people with passanger experience i guess your referring to cruise ships, because im with CMA CGM container company only would they consider taking me when i pass my cadetship? Also when finish my cadetship would it be okay to go straight into superyachts and work my way up or should i stay with big ship companies and if so i would rather go for tankers instead of my current company.Comment
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As far as i know its easier for engineers to go straight in as its less of a shock to the system, as for deck i would expect some time on a cruise ship would look better than a box boat, it tells them that your used to being involved with passangers know how to turn up looking smart in uniform etc. But a lot of it is down to how well you sell yourself.
If you go striaght after being a cadet your next ticket will be limited, so then getting onto bigger yachts or back onto ships if you decide you want to settle down will mean going back to using your OOW ticket and earning seemingly nothing for a few months while you get the time for the bigger tickets. Your also unlikely to get onto a 'yacht' unless you can prove that you know how to sail, so your looking mainly at motorboatsyou can take it with a pinch of salt, but i prefer it with a nip of whiskyComment
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Hmm might try get onto cruise liners when ive finished my cadetship then. So you would reccommend a few years on cruise liners then try getting into yachts? Also what type of pay would a 2nd mate be looking at on lets say a 80m+ yacht? Thanks for all the advice btwComment
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I havent much knowledge of that size prefering smaller ones myself but as most people talk about doubling salaries 50K-60K € probably isnt too far off. the other joy is that a huge number of boats wont leave the med and after a while that gets boring. It seems a common routine is get the sea time in for higher tickets then go to yachts for some money for a few years and then go back to big ships while your not too rusty and for the better lifestyle.you can take it with a pinch of salt, but i prefer it with a nip of whiskyComment
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If you go onto yachts then you will have a very difficult time getting back onto normal ships. Simply put, most companies have very little respect for those that work on yachts, simply because 80% of the time they don't go anywhere and you spend most of your time cleaning! It may appear impressive, but it really isn't to larger companies. Also, the sea-time doesn't count towards unlimited tickets!
It's just not worth it in the long run, it really isn't and I don't understand people's fascination with them....I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by.....
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Shinny Very Very Shinny!!!!!Originally posted by GuinnessMan View Postyou can take it with a pinch of salt, but i prefer it with a nip of whiskyComment
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Yes, you will be cleaning and keeping everything shiny. That is the role for a yacht officer.Originally posted by ETwhat? View Post
You will be the yacht owners personal bitch, on call, 24 hours a day....I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by.....
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on most it will be the stews and deckhands that look after the actual cleaning, but so much will depend on whats actually going on, if your not planning on going anywhre most get rid of the lower ranks so then its the officers doing everything.
We always went out for day before the ocean passages just to make sure that nothing had got bored of sitting in harbour and fallen apart must say those were pretty good days afternoon out sailing round the bay.
As for personal bitch tender drivers get it the worst
you can take it with a pinch of salt, but i prefer it with a nip of whiskyComment
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If you planned to look for work on yatchs after you qualify with your EOOW (im currently doing my cadetship on boxboats), what position would you be eligible for on yatchs, straight after qualifying.
Would a newly qualified 4th engineer be out of his depth as a 3rd engineer on a yatch? I know this is a very broad question but I hope someone can draw from personal experiance here! I'd imagine it would be a quicker progression to Chief onboard yatchs aswell?Comment
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Ah im not sure what to do some people highly reccommend yachts others say stay away from them not worth it so confused! If i dont bother with yachts is there any other type of ship that even comes close to the pay of them with other benefits?Comment
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Ro-pax tends to work a time for time pattern and theres some others that do similar, where as yachts generally dont give you as much time off (but not always) personally i would rather get paid half as much but only work half the year and have the fall back of working for a company instead of an individual after all 30K is a reasonable salary and you get more time to enjoy it.
But there are many draw backs and many plus sides but the big consideration has to be job security future options and boring bits like a pension, as theres no point having tons of cash for a few years and then going back to bugger all. I would recomend it for most people for a few years if you have a good boat with a good employer and a good cruise planned then its a great experience but it is hard work.
As for the engineering side most yachts wont carry motormen its the engineers that do the work so for the junior your going to be ok as long as you know the way around the engine room but i wouldnt expect the progression to be any faster. I'm also not sure if you can count sea time if your sat along side plugged in with the minimum machinery runningyou can take it with a pinch of salt, but i prefer it with a nip of whiskyComment
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