Clyde Marine Cadetship

[dale1989]

Hi was wondering if anyone could help me.

I am due to start a cadetship with Clyde Marine in January, I've put Northern Marine as one of my 3 choices, is there anyway I could help my chances of getting in with Northern Marine?

I currently work for Stena Line so I was thinking maybe if I could get a reference off them this might work in my favour?

Last question because I am working for Stena Line I have got some sea time in and I've done some STCW 95 courses, will this make the length of training any shorter for me or will it be the same? and will I have to do those courses again?

Thanks

[Chiefy]

Re: Clyde Marine Cadetship

I would imagine that the stcw95 courses wont have to be done again, and as such you'll just get those days off

The seatime....is it in your discharge book? But I would guess it wont count as you werent there as a cadet therefore not doing "relevant" stuff on the boatie

[CharlieDelta]

Re: Clyde Marine Cadetship

What are you doing with Stena at the minute?

[size4riggerboots]

Re: Clyde Marine Cadetship

If you have a discharge book and the seatime is logged, it counts I think, though it may depend on whether you're working on deck or as ancillary crew. Your STCW 95 courses should stand, but with the STCW 41 coming in we may all have to do them again.

[dale1989]

Re: Clyde Marine Cadetship

Well at the moment with Stena I'm just a Cabin Assistant, all the sea time is down in my discharge book.

I'm going on the fastcraft soon so I think I will be put down as a general purpose rating then since I'll be working on the car deck. I'm going to see one of the captains on Monday hopefully find out if there's any other experience I can get on the deck side.

I've been volunteering for the RNLI for nearly a year now as well will this count for anything?

[Chiefy]

Re: Clyde Marine Cadetship

In which case the sea time might get counted as 1/2, depends on the mood of the MCA when you ask!
Lifeboat time wont really count other than making you an interesting employee and showing you have some gumption etc

As for the new STCW if/when it gets ratified, the grace period will be huge, took 10 years for 95 to be fully implemented etc, and with luck there wont be any need to re-do courses (god I hope not!) as my reading is the levels arent as high as for 95 other then in areas of "touchy feely" (soft) areas like how to be nice to each other, and the "bill of rights" section which the yanks have already stated they wont be having any of! Go USA

[alistairuk]

Re: Clyde Marine Cadetship

BTW... As you need all your STCW certificates valid at the time you sit your Orals (in approx. 3 years time) - and most of them expire after 5 years... you may be as well just doing them anyway - as you will have to redo them once they expire, and the last thing you want to be doing is playing around trying to arrange to redo them in the weeks before your orals.

[Chiefy]

Re: Clyde Marine Cadetship

they expire? Hmmm, I havent re-done any ever, now on second Chief's Re-val and not had any complaints from Southampton

[alistairuk]

Re: Clyde Marine Cadetship

they expire? Hmmm, I havent re-done any ever, now on second Chief's Re-val and not had any complaints from Southampton

Hmm... that's interesting.... I have noticed that none of my certificates from Warsash have an expiry date on them, but ones issued elsewhere all seem to expire after 5 years...

[minchmermaid]

Re: Clyde Marine Cadetship

The only short course that you have to revalidate is medical care and that's usually because you need one that's less than five years old for sitting your Mates and Masters tickets and most companies want people who have a vague idea of the most up to date lifesaving techniques, (they change remarkably often) The revalidation is usually a four day course whilst the full one is a week. Although as Size4 says, things are changing so who knows what we will have to do in the future.

[Chiefy]

Re: Clyde Marine Cadetship

So long as we dont end going the Roluman route, they ahve to re-do every 5 years AND if they sail on a higher ticket BUT dont use it (ie sail in rank) within 5 years they get busted down a rank and have to re-do the whole fsking lot again!

[dale1989]

Re: Clyde Marine Cadetship

So should I just phone up the MCA on monday or wait till I start college?

Does anyone know if it would be worth me phoning Northern Marine so speak to them about my cadetship, just to let them know that I work for Stena at the moment maybe improve my chances?

[CharlieDelta]

Re: Clyde Marine Cadetship

No harm in trying, I'd say, but do Northern place on ferries? I was under the impression they mainly went for Stena bulk and so on.

[alistairuk]

Re: Clyde Marine Cadetship

So should I just phone up the MCA on monday or wait till I start college?

Your college will know if you have to redo them or not - so I would just wait till you start college - as long as you have told your company you already hold those courses - as your company may want you to redo them.

[mikcle60]

Re: Clyde Marine Cadetship

should of put northlink ferries as a choice as northern marine have agreed to take all or most of the cadets...as regards to stcw95 i asked clyde marine and they said i would have to do them again maby worth asking if you could do your advanced fire fighting instead tho!!