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  • Hatchorder
    started a topic Who is still recruiting - Comments thread.

    Who is still recruiting - Comments thread.

    Several people have contacted me by PM asking for further comments on the "Who is still recruiting" thread. Therefore I have decided to create a separate thread for comments.

    First rule - do not ask me to forward CV's to recruiters, divulge email addresses or contact names - I won't do it on your request. The conversations I have with these people are based on trust and to make information available to people without being bombarded themselves. They trust me to let you know if a vacancy appears, even at short notice, and if they thought I was giving out their email addresses they would make me walk the plank...

    (Do they still do that now? NO!!!!! When I was a lad.....)


    So - on the menu today we have 2 x ETO places need filling over at Carnival for September start - get your skates on if you want to apply for one of them - only a short time left. Also to let you all know Carnival have opened their applications for January intake, Deck and Engineer, FD and HND (dependent on college) and they close for applications for January intake on August the 1st. That must give you an idea of how popular these places are the window is only open for less than 6 weeks. If I get any feedback on numbers of spaces available I will update you all.

    Off you go!

    Regards

    Ian.


    Specific Comments from the Recruiters


    From the RFA:
    "Our cadets starting Nautical College in September will be attending BRNC Dartmouth in May, therefore, are already in the system, and are now in the process for those attending BRNC in September who will attend college in January."

    From Clyde Marine:
    "We do not recruit for any one shipping company specifically, allocation of the trainees is completed once they have been accepted. Therefore it is possible that any individual who applies could be sponsored by any one of the companies that we recruit for."

    From SSTG
    "We are still recruiting for Sep 2014 vacancies, in fact we don’t stop recruiting as the Jan 2015 intake is just round the corner"

    From BP
    "the portal for applications will be open until late April."

    From Princess Cruises
    "At this point in time I would think we probably have enough Deck Officer Cadet candidates to interview so our focus is very much on Engine and ETO. "

    From Bibbys
    "Our preferred method for receiving applications is via our website on www.bibbyshipmanagement.com , where potential candidates can download an application form and forward via email to cadetapplications@we.bibbyshipmanagement.com."

    From Carnival Group:
    "We have closed our application process for September due to high volumes of applicants. (I my need to reopen for ETO's but will let you know). For September I was only looking for 20 across the 3 disciplines. ALL applications are through the website www.carnivalukcareers.co.uk when I reopen them for January. This will be around June / July."

    I have some more responses after a quick nudge to those that had not responded before:

    From Anglo Eastern:

    We still have another 13 Vacancies at the moment and actively recruiting. We are still recruiting for Subsea 7 and DAO.

    From Conway Trust: (This is the complete email I received!)
    "Conway Merchant Navy Trust completed recruitment in Jan 14 for the Sept 14 entry."



    Ian
    Last edited by Hatchorder; 22nd September 2014, 09:46 AM. Reason: Moved opening comments to top of thread

  • Trigel
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    Hi, is there an updated list of vacancies for 2019? Thanks

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  • Hatchorder
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    An update from Anglo Eastern:

    I have had an email at the end of last week but I was on holiday so I am posting it now.

    They have 1 space left for the September ‘18 intake with one of their deep sea clients due to a last minute drop-out. The course is at the NAFC in Shetland for an HNC course, preferably engine cadet but they would welcome deck applicants also.

    You need to complete the online application form at the following address: http://cadets.angloeasterngroup.co.uk/

    Given the timeframe, I would think that if you complete the application properly you could guarantee a very quick interview this week.

    Get busy!

    Regards,

    Ian.

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  • Hatchorder
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    An update from SSTG:

    An email from SSTG at the end of last week tells me they are still recruiting for September:

    Deck Cadet Engineering
    ET O
    Boston Putford 6 6
    Evergreen 15
    North Star 4 2
    OOCL 4 6
    Sea Truck Ferries 1 1

    Some of these spaces have come about because recruiters have made a late decision to recruit more cadets this year.

    There is plenty of time left to get a cadetship for September. Just remember that you need to visit their website and submit an application in full. By that I mean that if you do not follow their guidelines on the web page you may find your application rejected.

    So - there are still spaces left for Deck and Engineering ...... Good Luck everyone.

    Ian.

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  • Hatchorder
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    An update from James Fisher:

    A quick email from James Fisher last week has informed me that they are still looking for 2 recruits for their February intake at Fleetwood College.

    Follow the link on the "who is still recruiting" thread, download the application form, complete it and send it over to the email address as soon as possible, or if you are lazy just clicky here: https://www.james-fisher.com/careers...aining-scheme/ and send it to here: p.jewell@james-fisher.co.uk - sigh!

    So - spaces still left and with a Company recruiting for themselves - a rare late opportunity.

    Good Luck everyone.

    Ian

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  • Hatchorder
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    An update from Anglo Eastern:

    Looking to run away to sea?
    Got good grades at GCSE but making a hash, or getting bored, with A Levels?
    Parents are you fed up of the kids being at home and need to offload them?
    Wives - need to get him out from under your feet?
    Just fed up of Trump and Brexit?
    Thinking of applying for September 2018 but kicking your heels now?


    Do NOT peel the sprouts just yet, forget putting the bacon on the turkey, and leave that last present for mum to wrap later................ NO EXCUSES!

    Anglo Eastern are still looking for cadets for all 3 disciplines ETO / Deck / Engineer for a Jan / Feb start.

    Who for? Which college? Which course? Hmmmmm. Time for you to do some work yourself - sort out an online application through their website www.angloeastern.com or send a cv to ukcadet@angloeastern.com. I do know they care about their cadets and seem to be a really good training provider. You might even use your initiative and find a phone number and the name of a person to speak to and find out all the answers to these questions.......

    What? You want me to do it for you? DOH! - "Bah, humbug!"

    Oh, and if Anglo Eastern tell me they do not have enough applicants by the end of December I am getting up a good old fashioned Press Gang to go around on News Years Eve to hunt you all down whilst you are incoherent ..... Any volunteers? What was good enough in Nelson's day is good enough now I say!

    Merry Christmas everyone!

    Regards,

    Ian

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  • deedub29
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    Originally posted by Hatchorder View Post
    An update from BP and Shell

    The big 2 oil majors have replied today.

    BP are recruiting for September 2018 and January 2019 but their portal does not open until 1st November so please do not apply now.

    Shell have not confirmed their numbers for January 2018 yet, but watch this space......

    Good luck everyone.

    Ian.
    Excellent news thanks for the update.

    Have applied to shell and was waiting on BP portal opening.

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  • Hatchorder
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    An update from BP and Shell

    The big 2 oil majors have replied today.

    BP are recruiting for September 2018 and January 2019 but their portal does not open until 1st November so please do not apply now.

    Shell have not confirmed their numbers for January 2018 yet, but watch this space......

    Good luck everyone.

    Ian.

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  • Hatchorder
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    An update about Recruitment for January 2018 and September 2018

    Hi everyone,

    I have sent an email out to every recruiter last week. I have updated the Who is still recruiting thread.

    So far I have heard back from 8, and the interesting thing so far is that there are a lot of places for both January and September.

    The other interesting fact is that those that have reported so far have revealed that there were the following unfilled vacancies for September 2017:

    • Deck - 4
    • Engineer - 8
    • ETO - 6
    • Unspecified - 22


    That is 40 vacancies not filled........... Most I have ever known, and to be honest some of the spaces were only filled at the last minute.

    So, lots to aim at this year, so get a move on you lot!

    Good luck.

    Ian.

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  • Hatchorder
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    How wonderful,

    A couple of days ago I got an email from a young lady who tells me she was talking to a new cadet and they both realised that they had been to the "Hatchorder School of Recruitment". They then found another person who started at college as well who said - "Me too!".

    This morning they sent me a lovely email with a photograph of the three of them together at college, despite the fact they have been busy trying to get their heads around stability lessons.

    Thanks guys - I really appreciate hearing how people are doing and it is funny how they all found one another within the first week of college. I hope they all get out of it what they thought they would, and love their new career.

    *Chuffed!*

    Ian

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  • Hatchorder
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    An update from Anglo Eastern:

    A copy of an advert that has appeared in the press:

    Merchant34x8-page-001.jpg


    Regards,

    Ian

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  • Hatchorder
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    An update from SSTG:

    A quick email from SSTG at the end of last week tells me they still have:

    • 6 Foundation Degree spaces for Deck Officers attending South Tyneside starting on the the 18th or 25th September.


    • 6 Foundation Degree or HND spaces for Engineers attending South Tyneside starting on the the 18th or 25th September or Warsash on 18th September.


    Now you may think that that is all a bit close and impossible to do, and we have shown it is not the case when a few years ago Snowy applied on a Wednesday, had an interview on the Friday, got his offer through the same day and was at college on the Sunday.....

    That record has been broken in terms off application to offer and contract signed!

    SSTG interviewed a guy on a Monday @ 14.00hrs, an offer was made and accepted on the Tuesday morning. The college was booked and the ENG arranged by Tuesday 15.00hrs and the cadet had the Medical the following morning and started college on the 11th September!

    So - spaces still left......Good Luck everyone.

    Ian

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  • Midge
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    Oh yes it has been hard in the airline industry for quite a few years, though some airlines are now back training again which they had completely stopped doing at one point, but this is about perception really.
    the airline pilots have seen higher pay increases than almost any others recently.
    The other half has lots of connections in the airline industry, and many friends who are pilots for airlines, and we know others who are just getting first jobs. Yes it is damn expensive! For us here who pay for uni fees and full cost and have no student loan facility it's not much more than we pay already. Sadly!
    What people do when they research and look and what they find is much more likely to be a factor if they have no personal contacts in the industry to advise them otherwise.
    If this smartplus ever comes to fruition then you should be able to gain experience post qualification. Who knows what the job situation will be like when you have completed your course. A few years ago before mine started now qualified it was much better than it is now, things change.

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  • 750XL
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    Originally posted by Midge View Post
    Lack of junior jobs maybe also a factor. When students look at careers they look to see what the career offers they look for jobs to see what they pay conditions etc. If you do a search for junior officer jobs what comes up? Anyone out there advertising a need for them? Nope.
    Very valid point in my opinion. I'm only just about to embark on my cadetship and despite researching as much as I can for the past 6 months, to say I'm extremely worried about job prospects at the end of my cadetship would be an understatement. The general consensus everywhere I look is that there are no jobs for junior British officers with no prior experience, unless you're one of those lucky enough to be offered a job by your sponsor company post cadetship. As I'm with MEF, there's zero chance of that, so it's a really worrying prospect that I'm trying to put to the back of my mind but...

    Nope. Airlines now having to pay extremely well, and some are now back training after a long absence from doing so.
    In many ways it's similar, involves travel, navigation a technical ability and understanding. But it has a much more attractive face. Captains pay £ high 80k and above. You are not away from home for months at a time either, you can also gain a degree at the same time if that is what attracts some.


    I have to slightly disagree. I've worked in aviation for the last 7 years with a lot of guys and girls who are fully qualified pilots with an fATPL, many of whom can't find a job anywhere without taking the risk of paying £30k for a type rating and going with the likes of Ryanair or Easyjet. This is in addition to the £100k+ debt they have. A few colleagues and friends of mine with fATPL's have had to give up the dream as they can't afford the re-currents, and now have over £100k of debt to pay back.

    However, I do agree that a career as a pilot is much better known than the merchant navy. 9 months ago I had absolutely no idea what an office was in the merchant navy, despite probably being higher up the geek scale than most with a passing interest in most stuff transport! Even when I started researching the role, it was really quite confusing in my opinion.

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  • Midge
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    Lack of junior jobs maybe also a factor. When students look at careers they look to see what the career offers they look for jobs to see what they pay conditions etc. If you do a search for junior officer jobs what comes up? Anyone out there advertising a need for them?
    Nope. Airlines now having to pay extremely well, and some are now back training after a long absence from doing so.
    In many ways it's similar, involves travel, navigation a technical ability and understanding. But it has a much more attractive face. Captains pay £ high 80k and above. You are not away from home for months at a time either, you can also gain a degree at the same time if that is what attracts some.
    More people have heard of an airline pilot, than they have of an officer in the merchant navy, some don't know what the merchant navy is and think it's the RN, and that's even living where I do surrounded by sea where reliance on seafarers and shipping is a day to day factor for our existence! A few bad storms and the shop shelves are empty.

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