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    Hello,

    I'm trying to get a sponsorphip , after some research i found that this college proposes a "pre cadetship" training
    Is anyone in that training , or did it previously ?

    What are the advantages of this training , is it really an advantage for securing a sponsorphip ?

    Thank you !

  • #2
    Never heard of it personnelly, any youngsters heard of it?

    I recommend sending off applications to a few companies for a cadetship, and see what happens. You can always phone those companies and ask their advice about pre-cadetship training. You can always do the pre-cadetship training later, if you failed to get a sponsorship I guess. Got a link to this?
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    • #3
      I've sent applications to various shipping companies , many did not reply me yet , and some sent me negative replies because i am not a UK resident, and did not complete my education in UK , i'm a french national who has the equivalent qualification required.

      I called maritime colleges who advised me to continue searching a sponsorphip in th uk , even though it will be harder than if i lived in UK.

      This is the link to the pre cadetship in ST :

      http://www.stc.ac.uk/sites/default/f...ship%20web.pdf

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      • #4
        Hang on, your french national and where do you live? And what is your primary language?

        Does France not have a good Merchant Navy programme? Bit confused here.

        Possibly in your case this extra course might help. Telephone the training companies, and ask questions, not only is it quicker in response, but they will be more pro-active and helpful. Especailly as it will automatically establish your english is good.
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        • #5
          If you are not a UK national and don't live in the UK then getting UK sponsorship will be very difficult. I believe you need to be resident in the UK for at least one year in order to be eligible for government funding for the course. Obviously if you are not eligible for the funding then most companies won't be willing to sponsor you because it will cost them significantly more to do so. If you really want a UK cadetship then you'd probably be better off coming here for a year first in order to meet the residency criteria, then applying. I think it is just a year you need to be here for, unless anyone wants to correct me? Of course, as has been mentioned maybe it would be easier to try and do it in France? Although admittedly I have no idea what the French training schemes are like or how they work.

          Regarding the pre cadetship courses, I don't know anyone personally who has done one although I think they have been mentioned on here before. Everyone I know managed just fine without them and the cynical side of me would say its probably just an easy way for the colleges to make some extra cash. When you start a cadetship you start from scratch and whilst the pre cadetship course may give you a basic grounding in some stuff, you will probably just end up going over it again when you start your cadetship. I guess it would be an ok thing to have on a CV but I'm sure there are plenty other things you could do to improve your chances.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by viry91 View Post
            I've sent applications to various shipping companies , many did not reply me yet , and some sent me negative replies because i am not a UK resident, and did not complete my education in UK , i'm a french national who has the equivalent qualification required.

            I called maritime colleges who advised me to continue searching a sponsorphip in th uk , even though it will be harder than if i lived in UK.

            This is the link to the pre cadetship in ST :

            http://www.stc.ac.uk/sites/default/f...ship%20web.pdf
            Might I suggest you PM Hatchorder as we have just recently helped a French national out....
            I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by.....

            All posts here represent my own opinion and not that of my employer.

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            • #7
              Since i've seen this im really interested in doing it now , ill see if i can anyways cause Newcastle=2hours away , But yerhh i feel that will give a massive advantage !

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              • #8
                I've seent he pre-cadets floating around, They seem to wear white shirts and wooly pullies so you may have seen them Dosed and thought they were cadets, they tend to hover around the library etc. As far as i've read, you study basic deck stuff for half the time and engine stuff the other half, it's all basic things like ship types, basic basic chartwork(and the equivalent simple engine thing) and then at the end your in a better position to decide if you want to do the job and in what department.... I guess it's a good idea, but personally I think it might be a waste of time, it's a whole year you could of just been doing a cadetship. On the plus side, if your 16-18 it's free at STC

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                • #9
                  Slight observation.... if you read the first few paragraphs of the web site (not the linked file) its geared for those interested in Engineering Cadetship, lasts 1 year and appears to mainly cover mathematics.
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                  • #10
                    Ah yea, the "Pre-cadetship in Engineering (Marine)" one :P i thought they had a deck one too

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                    • #11
                      It's been really popular this year, think last year they had like 10 and this year they have two classes, even seems like some on it are sponsored, could be wrong!

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                      • #12
                        Never knew it was a whole year , cause im doing Alevels ill skip i guess ahahaha

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                        • #13
                          I'm on the pre-cadetship at the minute. This course is NOT just for engineering it is deck and engineering. In your first term you will study the core modules that is required for deck and engineering then after Christmas you will split into deck and engineering classes and focus on the modules for whatever you choose to do. Thrown in just before Christmas is a work experience but unsure what is happening for that as we can't get on a ship as we don't have our STCW-95. As mentioned previously we have to wear a uniform pretty similar to the cadets to prepare us for being a cadet if we hopefully get sponsored. There are two classes at the minute of level 2 (students with C grade or less in GCSE maths or equivalent) or level 3 (students with grade B or higher in GCSE maths or equivalent). If students on level 2 perform to a high standard they can stay on for an extra 3 month at college to complete the level 3 course. If you are on the level 3 course you are automatically legible to do the FD course instead of HNC/D. There were only about 20 on the course last year but 70 this year! This is a course for people who have failed to obtain a sponsorship so it sets them off on a better place time as they'll already have knowledge of the industry to a high standard. You will come out with two qualifications at the end of the course, SQA diploma in shipping and maritime operations then a one in either nautical science (deck) or engineering. At first it was abit confusing as the college had made mistakes with the timetable and classes etc but now it's all sorted I personally think it is a great course to assist you with obtaining a sponsorship.

                          hope this helps.
                          Phase 2 Cadet
                          Evergreen Marine (UK) Ltd.
                          South Shields Marine School

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                          • #14
                            So what sort of stuff do you learn? You say it's nautical science etc but I mean.... Masters sail with HND's in nautical science?

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                            • #15
                              The core units we are doing at the minute are;

                              mathematics for seafarers
                              numeracy for seafarers
                              maritime sector
                              control vessel operations
                              vessel construction and stability

                              after Christmas I'm unsure what the course content will entail but when I find out I'll be sure to let you know
                              Phase 2 Cadet
                              Evergreen Marine (UK) Ltd.
                              South Shields Marine School

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