Who is paid more, deck or engine?

[Dosedmonkey]

If the Captain had already decided that the guy was getting fired then it would be in his best interests not to resign, but some people have issues with getting fired its that whole ' you cant fire me i quit' idea. but if he didnt know what was comming then that sucks a bit, except your still not out of pocket, and depending on where you are that can be a reasonable hit to take for prides sake.

He was part of the technical department, the Chief Engineer had decided, as stated previous.

He was grossly incompetent and a danger from what I knew, so I would have no whim over saving my company money, bare in mind they have to play ?800 for him to fly home, ?800 to fly a new guy out, new guys finding fee, say ?400, plus any extra travel costs, airport tax, buses, taxis, that'll be around another ?300. Oh and pay overlap, as you pay people whilst they travel, that's another ?250 a day (two people of low officer rank), so maybe additional ?800 there. So rough total of ?3100.

Its suddenly cost the company a lot, when its not really their fault someone appualing has got through the system.

People don't get fired lightly, and minor things defenetly get over looked at sea, we all go on a wild one from time to time, and if you getting a bollocking then you probably pushed it a bit far, but its got to be bad to even get reported back to the company and logged, so to be fired is severe. Don't get me wrong, I want the best for people, but you do need to make tough descisions once your in a position of responsibility with the well being of yourself, the crew, the vessel and the company in mind. More remote, and smaller the crew on a vessel, normally people who don't fit in leave of their own choice, which can be one benefit of some companies. Another benefit of a small company is the managing directors come on board the vessel(s) and know every officer whos sailed on the vessel for a fair bit of time quite well.

[ETwhat?]

Surely it is the people who did the interviewing etc who did cock up to let someone that bad through the net.

And i still believe that if you have decided to fire someone then thats the way they leave the company you dont let them resign regardless of how much its going to cost.

[GuinnessMan]

Surely it is the people who did the interviewing etc who did cock up to let someone that bad through the net.

And i still believe that if you have decided to fire someone then thats the way they leave the company you dont let them resign regardless of how much its going to cost.

Interviews only reveal so much about how good a person is. They're on best behaviour at that point and some will promise you the moon and that they're better than sliced bread (I wonder if the person who invented sliced bread knew the bench mark he was setting for humanity).

We also do background checks, we contact their former companies and ask about them, but again, that only reveals a little about them. The only way to see what they are like is to have them on board for a month.

These folks do slip through the cracks, and you can't blame your crewing department for it all the time. We use manning agents for our crew, and we have had some shockingly incompetent folks on the ships. We tend to let the junior officers off with it, as they can be trained, but the senior officers get no mercy. We had one Captain onboard a suezmax who, i'm sure was a good navigator and manager, but could not communicate anything to anyone via email or telephone. He managed to piss off the purchaser, the agents, the owners, the charterer's and a shore side doctor (we had a small medical issue at the time, but he somehow managed to give the doctor the impression that the guy was dead...). In the end we told him that he was going on leave early and we just never rehired him.

Resigning is sometimes better all around for some. We've already gone through what sort of documentation is required to fire someone. It, sometimes, is just easier all around to let them resign and send them home. No hassles, no mass amounts of documentation and no chance of being sued for wrongful dismissal.