Average Trip lengths..

[Rowdy]

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Scale in raw numbers uncertain. Three ships getting chopped and some branches were overmanned already. Some branches will be heavily trimmed, others largely unaffected because of existing and future shortages. The good news is that junior deck and engineering officers are unlikely to be much affected, but will probably be offered voluntary redundancy to allow continued recruitment. Basically there are old, passed-over duffers in junior grades that won't be missed.

Recruitment is to continue and the RFA is DESPERATE for ME cadet recruits who can pass an AIB. You should look into it, the RFA version should be easy if you've got an RN background at any rate/rank.

I will definately look into that, Thanks for that Steve.

[Lewis]

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What is ME steve?

[Steve]

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Scale in raw numbers uncertain. Three ships getting chopped and some branches were overmanned already. Some branches will be heavily trimmed, others largely unaffected because of existing and future shortages. The good news is that junior deck and engineering officers are unlikely to be much affected, but will probably be offered voluntary redundancy to allow continued recruitment. Basically there are old, passed-over duffers in junior grades that won't be missed.

Recruitment is to continue and the RFA is DESPERATE for ME cadet recruits who can pass an AIB. You should look into it, the RFA version should be easy if you've got an RN background at any rate/rank.

[Rowdy]

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also I would assume that companies that pay you even when you are ashore probably will not let you have longer off than allowed in writing - if they do most likely they will obviously not pay you :-)

In RFA it's called "continuous pay" when you exceed earned voyage leave. It normally happens when there isn't an available billet on a ship to send you to at the time your leave is up, so it's their fault and not yours. Your salary is paid as normal but you are on 24hrs notice to join a ship unless agreed otherwise with your appointer. It's quite common. How common depends on branch, grade and adquals. ABs are typically running a month over their earned leave at the moment, but that'll change with forthcoming redundancies.

Any idea of the scale of redundancies? Direct result of the SDSR I take it?

[Rowdy]

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I would love to think that I am needed somewhere haha!

Thanks for your help anyway

[Steve]

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also I would assume that companies that pay you even when you are ashore probably will not let you have longer off than allowed in writing - if they do most likely they will obviously not pay you :-)

In RFA it's called "continuous pay" when you exceed earned voyage leave. It normally happens when there isn't an available billet on a ship to send you to at the time your leave is up, so it's their fault and not yours. Your salary is paid as normal but you are on 24hrs notice to join a ship unless agreed otherwise with your appointer. It's quite common. How common depends on branch, grade and adquals. ABs are typically running a month over their earned leave at the moment, but that'll change with forthcoming redundancies.

[Chiefy]

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When you finish your cadetship it'll depend on your sponsor. It isnt automatic, though for many it can be, it all depends on many many things, remeber you arent "ready" for 3-4 years they are taking on now basis of a projection and the world not ending, bankers going mental again etc.

As No 2 says, make some links as you go and you'll be ok in the end, you will be needed "somewhere"

and yes sponsorship is the FIRST step

[Rowdy]

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I shall have to get 'networking' then!

Actually...getting sponsored is probs more important first.

[alistairuk]

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As chief says, yer compare things evenly :-) also I would assume that companies that pay you even when you are ashore probably will not let you have longer off than allowed in writing - if they do most likely they will obviously not pay you :-)

And no, if the company you are with offers you a job, great... But otherwise your on your own to find a job somewhere :-) it's always good to make contacts within the industry who will help you out when you're looking for a job

[Rowdy]

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It depends, not all comapnies are the same so be carefull that you compare eggs with eggs when looking for a job (after qualifying). My lot pay a salary same each and every month regardless of where you are, other companies pay nearly twice as much PER DAY but ofc it works out the same over / year

That's a good point, is there advice in place to help with looking for a job after qualifying? It's not just a case of, here we have trained/sponsored you...now on your way?

[Chiefy]

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Cheers for the info mateys!

I didn't realised the pay whilst your onboard thing, I foolishly assumed everyone was paid each month and every month regardless...I must have spent too long in the RN!

It depends, not all comapnies are the same so be carefull that you compare eggs with eggs when looking for a job (after qualifying). My lot pay a salary same each and every month regardless of where you are, other companies pay nearly twice as much PER DAY but ofc it works out the same over / year

[Rowdy]

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I take it that's 6 months over the whole training period? I would be hoping to get a bit more than that mind!

[Brimbo]

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for engineers the minimum is 6month sea time and 4 months of UMS/watchkeeping time, though do your best to get more than the minimum!

[Rowdy]

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Cheers for the info mateys!

I didn't realised the pay whilst your onboard thing, I foolishly assumed everyone was paid each month and every month regardless...I must have spent too long in the RN!

[alistairuk]

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Thanks for the info alistairuk!

Am I right in understanding that the trip times during your cadet training will not reflect actual trip lengths once you are qualified?

I was just wondering average trip lengths/leave should one work for said company?

Also I am hopefully starting as a Eng cadet so required sea time is probably less than Deck.

This depends on what cruise line you work for, since you don't work for Viking they simply manage the scheme and hand you over to the cruise lines management when you complete your cadetship. Most cruise ship junior officers are either 4 on 1.5 off, or 4 on 2 off - these are approx however and if you wanted longer off/onboard you can always request it, but it would need to fit in the the rotations.

Another point: most cruise lines only pay you while you are onboard, so the longer you have off, the less you get paid