IT's complicated...

[dawg]

Viking now own Chiltern, and manage Trinity House.
http://www.vikingrecruitment.com/traini ... ref=banner

they offer 9,600 and do a mix of cruise ships and this and that... (Viking HR staff are dopey... sorry, I have to report it!)

I'm not 100% sure about their relationship with Maritime London or Conway MN Trust...

[size4riggerboots]

Re: IT's complicated...

No, no, no, no no, Tron, how many times...???!!

I'll put the full shizzle up for you later, just popped in for a browse before settling down and attacking statistical analysis again!

[dawg]

Re: IT's complicated...

i posted this before you explained it all on pm!

...but an explanation here (when you're free) would be great!

[effiestephy]

Re: IT's complicated...

I remember my application from Viking being passed to Debbie Baldy, of Chiltern Maritime, for Trinity House..or something like that..haha.

[size4riggerboots]

Re: IT's complicated...

When I was applying (Nov 2008) the people who run Viking had just bought up Chiltern Maritime, CM is still run as a separate company, but is in the same building as Viking, so yeah they do pass CVs across.

CM is the management company for the charitable organisations that sponsor cadets, they do the day to day shizzle for Trinity House, London Maritime and the Conway Trust. If you apply to CM they'll place you with one of these companies, (and before anyone asks I don't know what the pay for LM and Conway is).

Does that clear it up??

Tron- can we rename topics so people can see what companies they're on about?

[dawg]

Re: IT's complicated...

I do... it's ?8,000 ...LM have it on their site... and I don't expect Conway to deviate much.

There seems to be an approximate set ladder:

?5000 for SSTG, Bibby, James Fisher, JO Tankers, Clyde, etc...
?8000 for Maersk, LM, (7k for HND)
?9,600 for Carnival, Princess, Viking, Trinity
?11,000 for BP, Shell (rising to 14k)
?15,000 (?11,000 + danger money) for RFA

[Andy_S]

Re: IT's complicated...

There seems to be some big jumps in the pay scale. ?5000 for SSTG etc to ?11000 for BP/Shell is massive. Why do they pay so much more? I would have thought Shell/BP they would get enough applications whatever they payed.

[dawg]

Re: IT's complicated...

Well, as has been mentioned SSTG pay your accommodation.

BP and Shell are just loaded, and want to make sure they get the best they can I suppose... Chevron must just be tight as feck.
P'raps B & S are competing with the RFA to some extent. The RFA money may be linked to some internal payscale system. AIUI, RFA cadets are paid as though they are MoD employees - i.e. they can get Working Tax Credits... I'd like to see how much joy people like hontoir get with that lark... give it a spin and report back

The keyword(s) is "remunificatory work"... if that's what the RFA decide to call it on some piece of paper that you can dish to HMRC's Tax Credits people - maybe if you're subtle and just send a payslip without a complicationalarising letter from the admin orcs, it might fly... what does Steve think?

[Steve]

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I never thought I was anything other than a paid, salaried and pensioned employee of the RFA. My "work" just happened to involve attending college and studying towards a qualification. For example, If I was ill and could not attend college for a day, it was not a "student" matter for the college to deal with, but a matter between me and the RFA, my employer.

It might be a bit different for the commercial outfits - Clyde Marine cadets were given student support forms to fill out to have their college fees paid by SAAS. They may also have qualified for student loans. RFA cadets did not have anything to do with SAAS. I don't know where cadets stand with regard to the national minimum wage.