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    Ok, i'm doing the deck training at HND level, now the thing is... i'm not really sure how to explain it so...

    Year 1
    Phase 1 = College = 4 Months
    Phase 2 = Sea = 4 Months
    Phase 3 = College = 4 Months

    Year 2
    Phase 4 = Sea = 4 Months
    Phase 5 = College = 4 Months
    Phase 6 = Sea = 4 Month

    Year 3
    Phase 7 = College = ? Months

    Is this correct? If so it's not really a 3 years course (as it was advertised) it's not even a 2.5 year course.
    Please could you let me know if this right//wrong if i'm missing anything etc?
    Are there more phases?
    ??

    You get the idea.

    Thanks

    Ben

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    Re: Phases and time periods.

    Hi Ben, the course duration and 'schedule' varies by college and the length of your entire course will also depend on how good your sponsoring company is at getting you sea time. As you are also on the HND course your college examinations need to fit in with the SQA's examination timetable (they only hold HND written examinations a few times each year). However you are correct in your observation - providing you get 12 months sea time during the allocated phases and pass all your exams first time round - and sit your Orals as soon as you are eligible to do so, it is possible to complete the course in just under 2.5 years.

    You will probably find (although I can not guarantee this), that your schedule doesn't include such things as the mandatory short courses which take up about 6 weeks at the end of your cadetship (if your particular college and course do them all at the end). [Such as: GMDSS, NARAS(O), AFF, MFA, CPSC]

    Additionally, the MCA usually have a long waiting list for examination appointments at all their offices that conduct them (in Southampton last summer they were only doing 8 OOW Oral exams a week!).

    You may also find that a number of people on your particular course have to return to sea after phase 7 in order to gain the minimum sea time requirement.

    Therefore, basically what I am saying is it will take on average 3 years from starting your first day at college, until you have your OOW licence (the same applies to the foundation degree - at Warsash anyway)
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    • #3
      Re: Phases and time periods.

      Im going by assumption that the Engine/Deck cadets do the same amount of time in each phase here ( im sure they do )
      phase 1 = 8months (sept-Easter breakup)
      phase 2= 6 months (easter breakup - november) - last few weeks of this term are to polish off phase 1 exemptions.
      phase 3 =(jan-november)
      phase 4 = (november - may)
      phase 5 = im not too sure on yet, but its around 24weeks i believe.

      If you complete phase 1 / 3 by the time you enter phase 4, and during phase 2 / 4 you complete all your reports/portfolio work, then your able to take an Oral with the MCA for a 3rd mate/4th engineers ticket. If you pass this then, depending on your company you will be able to take the HND course, which will exempt you from a number of 2nds/chief eng/chief off/masters tests when you come to the time of taking the ticket!
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      • #4
        Re: Phases and time periods.

        In WMA the deck and engineer cadets have totally different phase patterns. For example Phase 1 deck was Sept-Dec whereas the engineers are Sept-March
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        • #5
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          Deck will be different from Engineering - Engineers don't need to have 12 months sea time before their Orals.
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          • #6
            Re: Phases and time periods.

            Hi Ben,

            The Deck HND timetable at Warsash is:

            Phase 1 (College) - 16 weeks
            Phase 2 (Sea) - 36 weeks
            Phase 3 (College) - 28 weeks
            Phase 4 (Sea) - 48 weeks
            Phase 5 (College) - 42 weeks

            Which, give or take a week or two, makes a 3.3 year course for completion of HND and OOW ticket.

            There's now only 5 phases in the HND programme, not 7 as it was previously.
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            • #7
              Re: Phases and time periods.

              If your going to fleetwood here is the link for the different phases.

              http://www.fleetwoodnautical.co.uk/medi ... cience.PDF

              Hope it helps.

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              • #8
                Re: Phases and time periods.

                Any Idea what the break down is like for glasgow on the PD deck course. I start there in Spt but doesnt seem to say much on there site apart from that. Anyone do same course last year know? Not important just curious.

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                • #9
                  Re: Phases and time periods.

                  I have one concern.

                  I have tickets to Glastonbury which is between June 22nd and June 26th. Will I be able to go?

                  I am doing the FD course at WMA. I think Phase 1 should be finished by end of May- early June. I'm not sure when sea phase should start though.

                  I know my priorities are to my course but I'm really looking forward to Glasto 2011.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Phases and time periods.

                    Sea Phase starts immediately after College phase, you may get lucky and not be sent away for a few weeks HOWEVER I would be very suprised if they left you alone till nearly a month after end of term, sell those tickets to some one who deserves them (me for instance!), seriously though I wouldnt count on going to Glasto11
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                      • #12
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                        I'd second that one-plenty of playtime after you're qualified....plus avoid the temptation of having a drag on a big fat bifter

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                        • #13
                          Re: Phases and time periods.

                          Thanks for your help guys,

                          It seems strange that it's different between each college but i get the picture.

                          =]

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