Just wondering if anyone could clear up a maths question  don't panic, it's not that sort of question I have been given conflicting info by recruitment staff at several companies about maths requirements for Cadet training. I'm wondering is there greater volume/difficulty of maths content and therefore different entry requirements between the Deck and Engine cadet courses, (I have applied for mostly Foundation Degree so far). My main worry is that I do not have maths or physics Alevel  Doh!
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Im not so sure with the FD course, but far as im aware theres no massive diffrence, For the HND a C's were acceptable, sometimes even D's ( in GCSE level ) for entry, but ive heard most companies have upped this to B's, it could be possible to be accepted with the grade below if you had engineering/navigational experience.Life at sea is a life for me

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For ETO FD, the maths level is mostly a good pass at GCSE level with some ALevel standard thrown in (polynomial division, partial fractions, binomial series etc). I'm taking the course called Engineering Maths so imagine its the same for the Engine FD guys.
There is no maths entry requirment on my course, and the teacher seems pretty good at teaching the weaker students.
We've also covered simple calculus I can't remember if that was in GCSE maths.Former TH cadet with experience of cruise ships, buoy tenders, research ships and oil tankers
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I entered the FD Engine course with a a C pass at Standard Grade, so my maths was quite a bit behind the standard required for the course. Its a thread that runs through everything you do( thermodynamics, mechanics, ship stabillity ).
That being said, if you apply yourself and persevere with it you'll find your skills pick up quite quickly. If you are struggling to keep up, there are after hours tutorials to help.
If you wanted to brush up, I'd reccommend getting your algebra up to scratch ( transposing formulae, quadratics, linear equations etc ). This is the stuff you'll mostly cover during your maths induction, but its definatly helpful to have a basic grasp of it before you start the course.
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Out of interest what Alevels do you have?
If you are really concerned about it then maybe you should look at going down the HND route (as you say you've only applied for FD). As discussed in the link below you'll see that the FD and HND are pretty much the same thing.
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Hope this helps a bit
Ben
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The Maths level on the FD is the Same as Alevel maths its quite easy if you have done Alevel maths as 80% is easily reached some modules are Further maths which is 1st year Uni level maths.Maybe I will never be
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In the HND courses the pass rate is only 50% for each exam you take, although offically your only aloud 3 resits or something. If you get on the lecturers good side you will pretty much be given answers in resits or at least helped a lotLife at sea is a life for me
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I would say that on the whole the engine route has more maths, and some might say it's harder maths.
So far in phase one it's been only up to Alevel standard and from the look of things it won't go much higher for the majority. However there are people in my class that have no Alevels, or did them a long time ago, so no option should be ruled out. As previously mentioned there is a lot of help available if you need it.
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I'd tend to say it's six and two threes regarding maths content between discipines.
Whilst Engineers do a have lot of theoretical mathematics, e.g. thermodynamics, monitoring etc, the Deck side have just as much, most of which is, dare I say it, used more regularly in a practical sense, a prime example being ship stability.
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You actually calculate your ships stabillity mathematically? You dont use a loadicator or other modelling software?I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by.....
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MCA reccomends doing sums by hand at least montly to cross check no one broke the software. Most companies have it in thier procedures too, for the same reasons.Trust me I'm a Chief.
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Re: Maths content for Deck vs Eng
Originally posted by ChiefyMCA reccomends doing sums by hand at least montly to cross check no one broke the software. Most companies have it in thier procedures too, for the same reasons.
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