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  • Matt247
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    Isnt it just bibby ship management cadetship re badged

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  • 06njack
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    I hope the interview went well!

    I keep seeing CMT getting a hard time here - whether or not you agree with the 'tonnage-tax' companies at least Clyde are up front about your chances of getting a job at the end of the cadetship. SSTG and V-Group might pay a little more as a cadet but as far as I'm aware chances of employment are still rare.

    In particular one of the above seem to really be pushing their cadet program but then don't openly state that they only recruit officers from Eastern Europe and India despite having a rather big officer in Glasgow... It's a sad state of affairs but the number 1 concern I would have applying for a cadetship again would be who gives me the best chance of a jobs straight after qualifying. Even if you don't like it, those first stamps are all important.

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  • Wave
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    I am doing the foundation degree at the moment at Fleetwood, which is awarded by LJMU. After I finish the cadetship I can either do a couple of days a week at the uni for a year to top it up, or use a distance learning package to do it while I earn. Whilst it will take 4 years it will cost about ?30k less than doing it as a normal degree!

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  • newbie
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    Hi Paul, not many Trainees go through the University route but it is possible. The University will accept you onto the course if you meet the academic criteria but as they have advised, if you wish to obtain a CoC then you must find a willing sponsoring company. A lot of sponsoring companies will be interested in your application as you will have already made a commitment to cover your academic fees yourself - presumably via Student Loans.

    A sponsor will have to fund your STCW short courses and your sponsorship allowance during seatime. You might find that some sponsors will also contribute to your living expenses while at University and possibly even a proportion of the academic fees. Just work your way down the list of sponsoring companies on the careers at sea website.

    Good luck

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  • Matt247
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    People like SSTG and Chiltern do offered limted sponsorship to people at Plymouth. But its usually only for sea time and short courses. Its also not guaranteed

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  • SeaboundBySunrise
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    Originally posted by Paul Nica View Post
    Matt, I was thinking of LJMU because its closer from where I live( i live in stoke at the moment) and i was thinking to travel to liverpool the first year and then move over there in the second year.
    Also, almost all companies insist you live on site for the first phase.

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  • SeaboundBySunrise
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    I should probably point out, there's a difference between a sponsorship and a cadetship. Most companies don't offer sponsorships - they offer cadetships. I don't know the exact details but I'd imagine it ties into the tonnage tax relief a company gains from taking cadets on board.

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  • SeaboundBySunrise
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    Originally posted by Paul Nica View Post
    I don't undeestand seabound. Do you mean its too late to apply for a sponsorship or too early?
    Neither. I mean that the cadet doesn't usually sign up to a course and then seek funding - the general route is you apply for companies (who have allocated slots at most, if not all, merchant navy courses around the uk) and then pick a spot. If a company offers you sponsorship then it's generally on their terms as they have their own links.

    Search CMT on the forums, there's plenty of threads about pretty much all the companies (and their pros/cons).

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  • Matt247
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    Check out hatcorders thread whose still recruiting

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  • Matt247
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    If you take a fully sponsored option you dont usually choose the college. Usually to Fleetwood STC Glasgow or Warsash. The Conway Trust are the only ones usually using LJMU and its only usually small numbers

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  • Paul Nica
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    Originally posted by SeaboundBySunrise View Post
    Out of curiousity, why are you applying to sponsors now if you're already starting your course in Sept?
    I don't undeestand seabound. Do you mean its too late to apply for a sponsorship or too early?

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  • Paul Nica
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    Matt, I was thinking of LJMU because its closer from where I live( i live in stoke at the moment) and i was thinking to travel to liverpool the first year and then move over there in the second year. I have already applied for SSTG, Anglo Eastern and Vships and I'm waiting for an answer from them. Thanks a lot for the help. I've got a question, why did you say to pick any of these 3 over CMT. Why are they better?

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  • Matt247
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    Unless your dead set on LJMU for some reason it seems pointless paying. Plymouth do a similar course. Many dont actually go to sea on it .o

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  • SeaboundBySunrise
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    Originally posted by Paul Nica View Post
    Matt, what do you mean by full cadet sponsorship?
    Paul, if you're asking that then I'm a little worried that you may not have looked into this carear path thoroughly enough. The general path is:

    -Apply to a sponsor company as either a deck officer/electronic engingeer/engineer.
    -Attend an interview with the interested companies.
    -If you're successful then they'll pair you up with a sponsor company and a university/college.
    -You'll essentially be an employee of them then, and they'll pay you X amount a month to live on plus your education fees. It varies from company to company but that's the gist of it.

    If you haven't checked out Careers At Sea then I'd seriously recommend giving the Start Here part a read.

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  • Matt247
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    Someone like SSTG OR Anglo Eastern with take you on a cadetship.....FD or HND and pay all the fees and a living allowance and sea time and all short courses paid for.

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